MUST READ: Secret of the PROS #177-191 :)

[alcast082]

NO news here, but its only day 3

[SonofBone]

be interesting to hear your results as these studys were done on OB/OB mice meaning they're obese and lean mice did not show a change in terms of White Adipose Tissue.

"In lean animals, neither AOD9604 nor hGH had any effect on epididymal white adipose tissue mass or expression of ß3-AR RNA, indicating that in lean animals, this fat tissue is not a major target for these drugs in this study. In contrast, the mass of BAT in lean animals was reduced by both hGH and AOD9604, and ß3-AR RNA expression was increased by both these compounds. This could possibly suggest that the increased expression of ß3-ARs in brown adipocytes sensitizes catecholamines to dissipate heat."

Also, you can do a search on AOD9604 and see that this is in phase II or III of clinical studies.

[alcast082]

hmmm, well i'm not obese, DAMMMIT,
We'll see I hope it works, I am at 18%bf which for me is pretty high

[Mr I]

send a sample over to Bouncer and he can give us the no shit lowdown like he did on IGF

[alcast082]

2 pounds down in 5 days, I believe this is just from dieting and running though. Lets see what happens

[mister.fantasti]

2 pounds down in 5 days, I believe this is just from dieting and running though. Lets see what happens

2 pounds in five days from running? Hey lets see some pics. I want to see a pics with a tape measure BEFORE AND AFTER!! Is it possible alcast for you to start a new thread on this with these types of pics?

[mister.fantasti]

with this stuff, it seems we really need to look at loss of size, not just weight.. Thats why we need PICS

[SonofBone]

Also, if his goal is to lose weight through diet & exercise, then the results experienced could be from diet & exercise & not necessarily from the hGH 177-191.

The ob/ob mice just followed their normal daily routines and were then measured. I would think that anyone trying this would try to follow as normal of a routine as possible if the goal is to determine whether it is effective or not.

I guess that is why we have clinical studies containing double blind placebos and all that jazz.

[alcast082]

There's no way i'm going to just use and not diet and do more cardio.
The results will be off becuase it won'tbe a controlled "experiment".
I know i know do it for science, hmmm I just want to loose weight for my next vacation.
Any how i will get pics, DOn't have any from the start though. I also haven't taken my body fat % again I will take it in 2 more days, weekly sounds good.
I plan to run this for 30 days, if it work I will know.

[mister.fantasti]

There's no way i'm going to just use and not diet and do more cardio.
The results will be off becuase it won'tbe a controlled "experiment".
I know i know do it for science, hmmm I just want to loose weight for my next vacation.
Any how i will get pics, DOn't have any from the start though. I also haven't taken my body fat % again I will take it in 2 more days, weekly sounds good.
I plan to run this for 30 days, if it work I will know.

LOL.. good point. any tape measure pics?

[alcast082]

well no promising news.
I really don't see any results with this, WHY WHY WHY
I've had great results with igf 1 , which is what im going to switch to in the next comming days.
In my opinion clen helps more, Maybe i needed higher dose or something but, for now no cigar.

[latin270]

Any updates????

[Ratchet]

^^^^^^Bump^^^^^

Any updates would be good.

[alcast082]

I am going to give it another try.
I switched to igf3 and had the same positive (faster weight loss, beter pumps and heavier lifts) results i've had in the past. I plan to switch back in a week to the new peptide, I'm going to try different doses etc...
Due to work I barely hae time to work out so def recording and measuring and so on will not be possible, I will take a pic now and a pic in 15 days.
What i do know is that i react very well to igf3 :dancingne

[jb241970]

So the jury is still out on this then?