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  • #46
    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
    didn't notice a thing? you sure it was real? you should definitely have noticed some muscle hardness, strength gain, and some sore joints.
    Sore joints for sure. :mad:

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Stonecold54
      primo/masteron/Eq/anavar :-)
      Thats basically my next course, minus the Eq

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      • #48
        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
        didn't notice a thing? you sure it was real? you should definitely have noticed some muscle hardness, strength gain, and some sore joints.
        probably real but it was QV so who knows how good it was?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by ROCKETW19
          probably real but it was QV so who knows how good it was?
          ya, you should definitely have noticed what I mentioned above. was it the first few years of QV stuff or was it towards the end before they shut down? early QV was good. they went to shit the last year or 2 though just like Ttokyo.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
            ya, you should definitely have noticed what I mentioned above. was it the first few years of QV stuff or was it towards the end before they shut down? early QV was good. they went to shit the last year or 2 though just like Ttokyo.
            yep at the end, not quite before they got shut down but very close to it. I got a lil harder but my guess is it was underdosed or I just dont respond to winny.

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            • #51
              fuck tren. i just cant take the idea of getting gyno and not being able to control it.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
                fuck tren. i just cant take the idea of getting gyno and not being able to control it.
                you can controll the gyno easy if you take a low dose or even better yet use tren A your first time to see how you respond. as you know tren A will be way easyer to controll then tren E!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by ROCKETW19
                  you can controll the gyno easy if you take a low dose or even better yet use tren A your first time to see how you respond. as you know tren A will be way easyer to controll then tren E!
                  i am so sensitive to estrogen gyno that i need to run nolv or adex on 500mgs a week. then if the gyno starts comming from the progestin side i will have to run dostinex. i just dont want to be on all these ancil drugs while on cycle.

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                  • #54
                    good one. lol

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
                      i am so sensitive to estrogen gyno that i need to run nolv or adex on 500mgs a week. then if the gyno starts comming from the progestin side i will have to run dostinex. i just dont want to be on all these ancil drugs while on cycle.
                      ya i understan im the other way i can take test up to 1000mgs with no gyno but progestron kicks in fast and hard over 300mgs tren.

                      your just gonna have to get tren A and give it a try if it hits just lower the does untill you find what you can take or just say fuckit and stop. you never know you might not be affected like me to progestron you can be one of thoes guys that takes 1000mgs tren with no problems.

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                      • #56
                        na, i think i will just skip the tren all together. from what everyone is saying, the mental sides are worse then test. i get pretty aggressive on test alone so i better just stay away from tren.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
                          na, i think i will just skip the tren all together. from what everyone is saying, the mental sides are worse then test. i get pretty aggressive on test alone so i better just stay away from tren.
                          in that case bro steer clear, sends me to the fwokin dark side! :rofl:

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                          • #58
                            wow im the other way around i am happy as can be on gear and when im off i notice i snap at people a bit more.

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                            • #59
                              ah, you fuckers. i dont know what the hell i want to do. maybe test at 500mgs per week and tren at 200mgs a week. .5mg of Arimidex EOD and Caber on hand in case. any issues with running both A-dex and Caber at the same time? i dont plan on running the caber but if progestin gyno appears i will have to run it.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
                                ah, you fuckers. i dont know what the hell i want to do. maybe test at 500mgs per week and tren at 200mgs a week. .5mg of Arimidex EOD and Caber on hand in case. any issues with running both A-dex and Caber at the same time? i dont plan on running the caber but if progestin gyno appears i will have to run it.
                                or just run tren A you wont need caber. i never heard of anything wrong with caber and A-dex at the same time.

                                thats my next cycle test 600mgs and tren 300mgs. im only using the tren cuzz GH is to much $$$$ these days if not it would be just test and GH. tren seems to melt the fat off me with out any muscle loss at all.

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