Baseball Report to Reveal Steroid Use

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Morning Edition, December 13, 2007 · Some of Major League Baseball's prominent active and former players will be linked to the use of banned performance-enhancing drugs. They will be named in a 300-page report based on former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell's investigation on doping in baseball.

More here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=17196615

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(CNN) -- Dozens of stars have been named in the investigation into baseball's "Steroid Era" by former Sen. George Mitchell. Here is an initial list of players, past and present, allegedly "linked to performance-enhancing substances:"

# Marvin Benard

# Larry Bigbie

# Barry Bonds

# Kevin Brown

# Roger Clemens

# Jack Cust

# Lenny Dykstra

# Eric Gagne

# Jason Giambi

# Troy Glaus

# Jerry Hairston, Jr.

# Glenallen Hill

# Todd Hundley

# David Justice

# Chuck Knoblauch

# Tim Laker

# Paul Lo Duca

# Kent Mercker

# Hal Morris

# Denny Neagle

# Andy Pettitte

# Brian Roberts

# John Rocker

# Benito Santiago

# David Segui

# Gary Sheffield

# Mike Stanton

# Miguel Tejada

# Mo Vaughn

# Randy Velarde

# Rondell White

# Gregg Zaun

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John Rocker... oh theres were the temper and attitude problem came from, those steroids he took! :rolleyes:

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So this is what I got from the report. Any of the current or big name players have been accused by word of mouth. Anyone they have evidence on (cashed personal checks or MO's) are either no name guys or retired. They can't go after the retired guys. This is all a bunch of shit for no reason. Good thing it's not taxpayer money.

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stupid media bullshit.

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A lot of players have paper trails leading to pharmacies and a lot of the people providing word of mouth information have no reason to lie. Im glad this came out, major league baseball is a joke. Hopefully the NFL is next.

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Im glad this came out, major league baseball is a joke. Hopefully the NFL is next.

What exactly are you glad about? Performance Enhancing chemicals have been used in sport since the start of sport itself. Can you go into a little more detail about what you mean exactly.

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What exactly are you glad about? Performance Enhancing chemicals have been used in sport since the start of sport itself. Can you go into a little more detail about what you mean exactly.

The ignorant and seemingly never ending cycle of people getting caught cheating. Steroids, corked bats, etc. etc. doesnt matter. Whats the first thing an athlete does when they get busted? Deny it. Why dont some of them grow some balls and admit that they cheated and they were wrong. Professional athletes insult everyones intelligence on a daily basis. Youre out making miliions and millions of dollars and when it comes down to it, youre a liar and a cheater. How longs it going to take for these dumb fucks to realize they have a gift, a gift that pays them endless amounts of money and they go and fuck it up. Barry Bonds, Pacman Jones, Michael Vick, Marion Jones, and the list goes on and on and on.... thanks for being great role models, you cheat, then lie about it. May you all burn in hell. :)

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Well said...You get caught; be a grown adult and admit it...People will tend to be more forgiving by doing so...

Exactly. If Barry Bonds would have said "you know what, I was getting older, there were milestones I wanted to reach, I did it for financial reasons... I used steroids, Im sorry"

I probably wouldnt be a huge fan, but Id respect the fact he has the manhood to admit to fucking up.

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I agree, its unfortunate but thats how it works I suppose.

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The ignorant and seemingly never ending cycle of people getting caught cheating. Steroids, corked bats, etc. etc. doesnt matter. Whats the first thing an athlete does when they get busted? Deny it. Why dont some of them grow some balls and admit that they cheated and they were wrong. Professional athletes insult everyones intelligence on a daily basis. Youre out making miliions and millions of dollars and when it comes down to it, youre a liar and a cheater. How longs it going to take for these dumb fucks to realize they have a gift, a gift that pays them endless amounts of money and they go and fuck it up. Barry Bonds, Pacman Jones, Michael Vick, Marion Jones, and the list goes on and on and on.... thanks for being great role models, you cheat, then lie about it. May you all burn in hell. :)

I don't see it that way at all. Caffeine is a Performance Enhancer, guys that have higher levels of natural test have an advantage, its not fair for other teams to play in Denver because of the elevation. The word "cheating" is a bunch of shit. Everyone fucking cheats. Take steroids out of the equation an you have injuries that will last much longer, much softer hits in football, WWE on TV only once a month, ect.. ect.. MMA, UFC, Boxing steroids play big role more so in recovery in the off season then "performance enhancing". Take steroids out of sports and be prepared to be fucking bored.

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This just opens up more doors for ALL sports to be under heavy scurtiny; just wait...Wouldn't surprise me to see the PGA one day in it:rofl:

I can see it now; "Tiger Woods, tested possitive for nandrolone" :)

Some of the old time PGA players have started talking about it. Gary Player stated that one golfer has told him that they use performance drugs. I wouldn't be suprised if it happened.

The problem with using it in golf though is it doesnt give much of an advantage. Sure it's gonna make you stronger so you can hit it further, but if you don't have the mechanics down you're screwed. Golf is a game of skill, not power. There's no need for steroids in golf.

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While this is somewhat true; you do need power for golf bro.

You do to a certain degree, but not as much as steroids will give you.

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I don't see it that way at all. Caffeine is a Performance Enhancer, guys that have higher levels of natural test have an advantage, its not fair for other teams to play in Denver because of the elevation. The word "cheating" is a bunch of shit. Everyone fucking cheats. Take steroids out of the equation an you have injuries that will last much longer, much softer hits in football, WWE on TV only once a month, ect.. ect.. MMA, UFC, Boxing steroids play big role more so in recovery in the off season then "performance enhancing". Take steroids out of sports and be prepared to be fucking bored.

Caffeine is an ergogenic aid.

Then why arent the Broncos undefeated year after year? Because altitude has minimal effects on performance. ( I have studies if youd like)

Not everyone cheats, thats a bad generalization.

I think youre forgetting that there are still myriad more of individuals who do not use steroids, than do that play professional sports.

Im not anti-steroids and Im not pro-steroids, but keep them out of sports. Keep the playing field level, and let HARD WORK determine success.

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Caffeine is an ergogenic aid.

Then why arent the Broncos undefeated year after year? Because altitude has minimal effects on performance. ( I have studies if youd like)

Not everyone cheats, thats a bad generalization.

I think youre forgetting that there are still myriad more of individuals who do not use steroids, than do that play professional sports.

Im not anti-steroids and Im not pro-steroids, but keep them out of sports. Keep the playing field level, and let HARD WORK determine success.

Caffeine is an ergogenic aid. So what? Steriods are synthetic hormones. No matter what you call them, they can both improve performance. That is the point.

Altitude makes it harder to catch your breath. If you cant breath you aren't going to be at your best. (I have studies if you like. :))

Why are they not undefeated? Well for one, they don't play at home every game. lol. 2. Just like steroids, the advantage dosent guarantee a win.

As far as keeping the playing field even. Well that is never the case. Take steroids out of the discussion and the field is still not even.

I also find it funny that you put "hard work" in caps implying somehow that people that do use steroids don't work hard.