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  • #16
    Just thought I'd explain a little more what the numbers mean - Rado already gave you the basic idea but here's more if you are interested....
    Testosterone circulates in your blood in two forms. One is unbound, or free testosterone. The other is bound up by a protein called SHBG. Sex hormone (or testosterone) BINDING (it binds up the testosterone) globulin (a protein). So the total testosterone level, or the first level that you listed, is the concentration of testosterone in your blood, bound and unbound. It is a little on the high side which makes sense considering what you are taking. The SHBG is normal. It may go up as your testosterone levels go up, but you want it to stay normal or low. The free testosterone concentration is the concentration of active testosterone in your blood. Only free testosterone is functional. When it is bound to SHBG it can not bind receptors and do all the things that testosterone does. Your level is high, makes sense. FAI is, like Rado said, is just a ratio of SHBG and free testosterone. So basically, you would expect your total and free testosterone to go up. And you hope that your SHBG stays normal/low to allow the test to be free and active.
    I can't contribute to telling you anything about how high your testosterone should be for what you are taking....but thought I'd try to help you with what the numbers mean.
    good luck

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    • #17
      lol

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Solstice106 View Post
        Just thought I'd explain a little more what the numbers mean - Rado already gave you the basic idea but here's more if you are interested....
        Testosterone circulates in your blood in two forms. One is unbound, or free testosterone. The other is bound up by a protein called SHBG. Sex hormone (or testosterone) BINDING (it binds up the testosterone) globulin (a protein). So the total testosterone level, or the first level that you listed, is the concentration of testosterone in your blood, bound and unbound. It is a little on the high side which makes sense considering what you are taking. The SHBG is normal. It may go up as your testosterone levels go up, but you want it to stay normal or low. The free testosterone concentration is the concentration of active testosterone in your blood. Only free testosterone is functional. When it is bound to SHBG it can not bind receptors and do all the things that testosterone does. Your level is high, makes sense. FAI is, like Rado said, is just a ratio of SHBG and free testosterone. So basically, you would expect your total and free testosterone to go up. And you hope that your SHBG stays normal/low to allow the test to be free and active.
        I can't contribute to telling you anything about how high your testosterone should be for what you are taking....but thought I'd try to help you with what the numbers mean.
        good luck
        good post Solstice. you need to post more in this section! :)

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        • #19
          thanks! I'll work on that!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Solstice106 View Post
            Just thought I'd explain a little more what the numbers mean - Rado already gave you the basic idea but here's more if you are interested....
            Testosterone circulates in your blood in two forms. One is unbound, or free testosterone. The other is bound up by a protein called SHBG. Sex hormone (or testosterone) BINDING (it binds up the testosterone) globulin (a protein). So the total testosterone level, or the first level that you listed, is the concentration of testosterone in your blood, bound and unbound. It is a little on the high side which makes sense considering what you are taking. The SHBG is normal. It may go up as your testosterone levels go up, but you want it to stay normal or low. The free testosterone concentration is the concentration of active testosterone in your blood. Only free testosterone is functional. When it is bound to SHBG it can not bind receptors and do all the things that testosterone does. Your level is high, makes sense. FAI is, like Rado said, is just a ratio of SHBG and free testosterone. So basically, you would expect your total and free testosterone to go up. And you hope that your SHBG stays normal/low to allow the test to be free and active.
            I can't contribute to telling you anything about how high your testosterone should be for what you are taking....but thought I'd try to help you with what the numbers mean.
            good luck
            yeah good post , good info

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rado
              Agreed...That's WAY TOO much gear...Unless you plan to compete at a national level, why the fuck would anyone put their body through all that shit.
              you need to read above, i explained the reason for the high dose.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by redback View Post
                you need to read above, i explained the reason for the high dose.
                what reason did you have to believe that it was dosed so poorly? usually someone gives it a try and then ups the dose if its not working. if you know it was such crap why buy it?

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                • #23
                  its a new source, i dont expect you guys to know the deal over here

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                    what reason did you have to believe that it was dosed so poorly? usually someone gives it a try and then ups the dose if its not working. if you know it was such crap why buy it?
                    bro dont assume things, i have good reason...
                    Last edited by redback; 02-09-08, 09:15 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by redback View Post
                      bro dont assume things, i have good reason...
                      lol, this fucken guy.

                      i am going by what you say. you say you started at 1200mgs because you were pretty sure it was dosed at half what the lab says it is or totally fake. since you started at 1200mgs you knew this was a shitty lab from the start. if they weren't a shitty lab they wouldn't lie about the dosages of their products.

                      so you have good reason to buy bunk gear? sorry if i don't understand that one bro. :)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                        lol, this fucken guy.

                        i am going by what you say. you say you started at 1200mgs because you were pretty sure it was dosed at half what the lab says it is or totally fake. since you started at 1200mgs you knew this was a shitty lab from the start. if they weren't a shitty lab they wouldn't lie about the dosages of their products.

                        so you have good reason to buy bunk gear? sorry if i don't understand that one bro. :)
                        your assuming i knew all that from the start, the first dose was not 1200 ya dick.

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                        • #27
                          the only reason we having this conversation is because rado was sayin the dose was high and you wana come in and back up everything he says. The dosage is my business. The post was about the blood test results. And now you saying that because the stuff may not be dosed at EXACTLY what the label says that it is crap. Dont try and understand.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by redback View Post
                            the only reason we having this conversation is because rado was sayin the dose was high and you wana come in and back up everything he says. The dosage is my business. The post was about the blood test results. And now you saying that because the stuff may not be dosed at EXACTLY what the label says that it is crap. Dont try and understand.
                            you need to take a step back my friend. read the thread over again. i was the first to say 1200mgs is high. i don't know what your little attitude is all about about but calm down, i was not attacking you i was simply asking you some questions based on what you have stated in the thread.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by redback View Post
                              your assuming i knew all that from the start, the first dose was not 1200 ya dick.
                              thats fine but you never said that before. when did you decide to change it up to 1200mgs?

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