What do the Pro's take

[the art of war]

The pro's will go where their sponsors push them, if the companies realize they can sell more product with representatives looking more like the old school bodybuilders, then that is who they will sponsor, and I doubt many Pro BBers could afford their meds without having all the sponsors. BBing is a business just like anything else.

Think of how flex wheeler quit .. then for the arnold classic he ran again KNOWING how bad shape his body was in... I think when you fight to the elite (all pro BBers) the drive will be dangerously addictive to always try something knew, something better, something that will provide that next edge. I really do hope that bodybuilding can turn this corner, but I hope more that the pros doing any of the types of cycles mentioned in this thread will really think long and hard about giving up what they are so used to by now and switch to a healthier way of life.

[yayo4455]

Excelent info on Igf1, IGFBP-3, and insulin. I see how it all work synergisticly together now.