Cycle 16 weeks out by IFBB Pro

[GrowthMan]

Here is what my coach had me doing 4 weeks ago (16 weeks out). My stats are pushing 30 years old, 3 NPC shows. I'm 6' tall and my last show I weighed in 203#, (a very stringy heavyweight). I worked with a national level competitor. This time Ive got an IFBB pro who will bring me in around 210# conditioned. My goal is to qualify for the 2011 USA's. At my height I need to be 225 onstage (minimum)...This goal will not be achieved at this show, but likely a year from now. We are doing this show to keep my skin tight and not get too fat in the coming year.

Nothing magical here...

16 weeks out

1 sust eod
1 deca eod
GH 5iu/day

13 weeks out

1 sust eod
1 deca eod
50mg dbol ed
GH 5iu/day

12 weeks out

1 sust eod
1 deca eod
50mg dbol ed
GH 10iu/day

Stay tuned...

Any athlete on here reading this knows there is no secret formula that will make you show ready. The drugs merely enhance training, and utilization of the foods. Please see the diet and training forum for the more important aspects of the prep.

[GrowthMan]

Training program

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...o-16-weeks-out

[GrowthMan]

The most important part...NUTRITION!

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...diet-growthman

[wnabeabeast]

Why deca? it'll make you retain water which is not what you want 12 weeks out, and I can guarantee you that is why you went up from 215lbs 4% to 230lbs 5% bf.

I would mix your test with EQ and masteron. EQ makes me retain my size and density without the water bloat.

[GrowthMan]

Why deca? it'll make you retain water which is not what you want 12 weeks out, and I can guarantee you that is why you went up from 215lbs 4% to 230lbs 5% bf.

I would mix your test with EQ and masteron. EQ makes me retain my size and density without the water bloat.

No doubt, my increase in weight is water weight. We're switching out the deca for EQ in about 4 weeks at 8 weeks out.

[wnabeabeast]

No doubt, my increase in weight is water weight. We're switching out the deca for EQ in about 4 weeks at 8 weeks out.

You should start the EQ asap because it takes about four weeks to kick in so by the time it kicks in it's almost time to take it out which is about 2 weeks out of the show plus you still have to deal with the water you gained from deca so I say make the change now and save yourself a headache later. :)

[bigscott]

You should start the EQ asap because it takes about four weeks to kick in so by the time it kicks in it's almost time to take it out which is about 2 weeks out of the show plus you still have to deal with the water you gained from deca so I say make the change now and save yourself a headache later. :)

why would you take out eq at 2 weeks out ? i run all supps right to the day i put on first coat of protan ,, orals right to show day

[wnabeabeast]

why would you take out eq at 2 weeks out ? i run all supps right to the day i put on first coat of protan ,, orals right to show day

EQ makes me retain a little water I take eq and gh out two weeks before the show but I do keep masteron and everything else.

[GrowthMan]

I'd like more feedback, too. Most local guys talk about dropping everything 1-2 weeks out. I run it all as long as I can.

[Bouncer]

EQ makes me retain a little water I take eq and gh out two weeks before the show but I do keep masteron and everything else.

water in controlled by diuretics.

[wnabeabeast]

water in controlled by diuretics.

False. Water is controlled by your water intake, food, sodium, and the types of drug you take. Diuretics is only good for the last bit of water you have leftover that you need to loose, if you are taking deca I don't care how much diuretic you take it's not gonna do shit excep to kill you.

[Bouncer]

False. Water is controlled by your water intake, food, sodium, and the types of drug you take. Diuretics is only good for the last bit of water you have leftover that you need to loose, if you are taking deca I don't care how much diuretic you take it's not gonna do shit excep to kill you.

false, you can take any kind of steroid right up until a show as long as you have the diuretic timing correct.

as far as the food, sodium, and water intake. i thought that was obvious.

[Bouncer]

p.s. there is no real benefit to be running shit like deca or anadrol right up until a show so you wouldnt want to.

but you certainly do not have to come off something like EQ, Prop, Tren, etc.. any water you are holding from those drugs can easily be taken care of with what we talked about above.

[GrowthMan]

As the show drew nearer the supps switched to:

6 weeks out

Prop: 100mg eod
Tren: 100mg eod
EQ: 100mg eod which was later switched to Masteron at 100mg eod (4 wks).
Var: 40mg ed 20mg AM, 20mg PM
GH: 6-7iu ed
Arimidex: 1mg ed
40-60mcg clen/day (surprisingly conservative huh?)
T3 up/down (low dose as well). The coach said too much would eat muscle.

As far as the retics went we ran Aldactone T-Fri.
Clen stopped on Wed. (4 days out)
Monday (5 days out) was the last shot.

[GrowthMan]

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