IGF-1 Lr3 Log - BAC Water VS Acetic Acid

[bigscott]

IGF1 LR3




Insulin-like Growth Factor LR3 (IGF-1)
IGF-1 (Long R3 IGF-1) Dose:
Light: 20 mcg
Common: 40 mcg
Large: 80 mcg

IGF-1 is injected post work out (PWO) or in the AM on non workout days for 4-6 week intervals.

Insulin-like Growth Factor (Long-R3-IGF-1), an 83 amino acid analog of IGF-1 is a highly anabolic hormone released primarily in the liver with the stimulus of growth hormone (HGH).

IGF-1 LR3 Molecule

Freeze dried (lyophilized) IGF-1 (in powder state) should be stored in the freezer (-18 degrees celsius).
Each Long r3 IGF-1 kit contains:

* 1000mcg of lyophilized Long R3 IGF-1
* 2 mls of 0.6% Acetic Acid (AA)
* 30ml Sodium Chloride (NaCL) as buffer

Dilute the IGF-1 with 2mls of Acetic Acid. Assuming (*DO NOT ASSUME*) AA will yield the correct pH balance of your research peptide.
Note: This creates a concentration of 500mcg/ml. So each 1/10 of a ML is 50mcg’s.

Draw the desired amount of IGF in to a syringe. Desired amount should be the approx dose you want to take.
Example- 2mls AA used to reconstitute IGF-1 1mg vial means 5 units on a U100 insulin syringe would equal 25mcg IGF-1
Pre-load your syringes at 5iu (25mcg IGF-1). Divide your IGF-1 into 20 syringes to move to the freezer for storage.

Thaw prior to administration. Draw from your NaCL after thawed to fill the remainder of your syringe with the buffer (up to 1ml typically).

Administer your test subject intramuscularly (IM) post workout. IGF-1 does not need to be bilaterally or in the muscle trained.

Unknown whether injecting IGF-1 to increase muscle growth

[Bouncer]

Scott your posting guides none of which say anything about how or why igf is only active in bac water for 48 hours like is so commonly repeated.

I have read every single one of the articles you posted. Hell, 2 of the articles you post say igf can be reconstituted in aa or sodium chloride! Lol.

Once again, it is about the claim by some people that it will not last in bac water. This claim is not backed up by any proof.

I am not debating whether or not aa will work, I think everyone agrees that it does. What I am debating and aiming to find out is if bac water doesnt!

[Bouncer]

I agree its great he is willing to try it but what difference does it make if you can use Bac or not? its not like the AA is hard to get or it hurts you so why risk loosing the IGF?

What's so hard to understand? It's about people saying a certain way won't work when I see no science and no reason why it wouldn't work.

[Bouncer]

Let me again point this out from the other thread. Written by a real scientist, not willy from the local peptide store. lol

"So for IGF-1 LR3 this "meet in the middle" occurs with acetate (a base) and acetic acid (a weak acid). Now IF there is no acetate present because the maker did not put it in (or you failed to ) reconstituting w/ acetic acid will make the environment too acidic and IGF-1 LR3 will experience depronation and degrade rapidly. So in a situation where there is an adequate base present such as acetate, you want to use acetic acid.

Now IF no base is added, you do not want to add an acid. Reconstituting with sterile water will give a pH of 4-7. Bacteriostatic water has a pH around 5. This is not a bad environment for IGF-1 LR3"

[Bouncer]

Also, just to clear the air, I feel like you guys (scott, and rocket) are taking it personally that I am doing this. Its not that I don't value what you guys say, I respect the both of you. I also agree with both of you that aa is the safe bet. i just need to find out if in fact it is true that the igf will only last 48 in BAC water or if that has just become the thing to repeat even though there is no proof.

[bigscott]

not taking it personally B ,, 99.99 percent of igf13 comes from overseas therefore i will always reconstitute with aa ....

every company i have come across and read articles on all state use aa or hcl which is even better but very hard to find ..

[Bouncer]

yea, and i know aa is fine to use. dont doubt it for a second.

i just have a suspicion that BAC is also fine to use because i can find no proof that it isnt.

we will see soon. if after a few days i dont notice anything from the igf in BAC water and i do notice something from the igf in aa, we will know.

[ROCKETW19]

Also, just to clear the air, I feel like you guys (scott, and rocket) are taking it personally that I am doing this. Its not that I don't value what you guys say, I respect the both of you. I also agree with both of you that aa is the safe bet. i just need to find out if in fact it is true that the igf will only last 48 in BAC water or if that has just become the thing to repeat even though there is no proof.

Im not taking it personal either. I think its fine to experment I used to do it all the time. but to me this one is just to know if it will work or not. I wanna see experments that will make it work better or something thats it. Im not gonna knock ya for doing it you wanna know and thats all that really matters so go for it.

What if you feel nothing from both bac and AA?

[Bouncer]

If I feel nothing from both ways I will say igf is shit. LOl

[Bouncer]

BUT, if they both turn out to work the same, that will mean no more burning piss acid that has to be diluted with bac water etc..

[bigscott]

BUT, if they both turn out to work the same, that will mean no more burning piss acid that has to be diluted with bac water etc..

def keep me posted brother

[ROCKETW19]

BUT, if they both turn out to work the same, that will mean no more burning piss acid that has to be diluted with bac water etc..

this is true but I like it sometimes,lol

[Ashop]

A few things first I never went hypo of even came close to that feeling and this was stuff that worked like a champ. proof was in the mirror.
second why expermint with the IGF that way? it makes more sence to experment on yourself with doses or timming but not the way its mixed.
everyone agrees that its fine in AA
some say bac water is fine
some say bac water 24-48 hours
makes sence to go with AA if you ask me. But either way you decide I will be looking at the thread to see what happens.

I went hypo every time if I didnt eat like clock work.
I mix my IGFLR3 in AA and then use some extra BAC
WATER in the pin to take some of the sting/bite from
the AA solution.

[Bouncer]

So at 40mcgs a day, the bottle should last 25 days. IMO that's too much money for results that can be attained with AS for a lot less.

decided to reconstitute with 3 cc's of BAC water.

so that will make each 10 mark on the slin pin 33mcg. so going to run 33mcg per day instead of 40. each bottle will last a month.

[Bouncer]

think 40-60mcgs is ideal, that's just me...I did well with that range.

and with my superior genetics, 33 for me will be like 60 for you. :weights: