Dbol only cycle!

[Mr I]

Yup, do 25mg per day 1 hr before training, 5 days a week for 8 weeks, come off and start ghrp or igf and tell us.

[Bouncer]

well the only thing left to do is experiment with 25mgs per day. :D

[al the chemist]

your absolutely correct bouncer, it will be less...but there is no information out there on the limitations on what dose you would encounter no supression, like I said ive taken 35 mg and was not supressed...

[ROCKETW19]

at some level there has to be a drop off though no?

i mean what if someone were to take 1mg of dbol per day. you cant tell me the sides would be the same as 100mgs of dbol per day.

that is an extreme comparison but i just wonder where that line is. there has to be a line. the question is, is that line where you can avoid sides still beneficial in terms of any kind of gains etc..

one thing that comes to mind is that the dose for guys in the 1950's and 1960's was as low as 5mgs per day and apparently they loved it.

thoughts?

According to william llewellyn no. you will get shut down if said drug is takin at high enough dose to build muscle.
Now is that true beat the shit outta me but I do belive what he says so I will go with it.

as far as sides That would be great to find the line but I think serious blood work would have to be done all the time and then I think that fine line would only work for you as we are all different.

[ROCKETW19]

Good points and thats why I am asking.

Your question mark at the end is confusing though. I thought you were making points but then I realized you were just asking questions. Lmao

I put a ? cuz I was confused one minute you said you didnt want bro science then 2 seconds latter you were spouting out your own. So my statement was a question,lol

[Bouncer]

I dont think you could say there would be a 1/4 of the side effects for 1/4 of the dose....

at some level there has to be a drop off though no?

i mean what if someone were to take 1mg of dbol per day. you cant tell me the sides would be the same as 100mgs of dbol per day.

that is an extreme comparison but i just wonder where that line is. there has to be a line. the question is, is that line where you can avoid sides still beneficial in terms of any kind of gains etc..

one thing that comes to mind is that the dose for guys in the 1950's and 1960's was as low as 5mgs per day and apparently they loved it.

thoughts?

[al the chemist]

unfortunately bouncer with my knowledge I dont think you could say there would be a 1/4 of the side effects for 1/4 of the dose...and as we both know everybodys body is unique and reacts to compounds differently, with that being said, I have taken 35 mg of dbol on workout days (5 days a week) and got great results(actually leaned out with a clean diet) without any type of crash or any noticable suppression, but I was also taking ZMA and tribulis...

[Bouncer]

I think I read the same study regarding the 40% supression. If I remember correctly it wasn't the dosage so much that limited the suppression but, the fact that it was only administered once a day. So would it matter if it was 50mgs or 25mgs? Just don't break up the dosages. Obviously, 50 would stress the liver more... although, you would think not nearly as much as 25 in the am and 25 in the pm.

definitely would only be once per day about 40 min before workout.

[Archenemy]

I think I read the same study regarding the 40% supression. If I remember correctly it wasn't the dosage so much that limited the suppression but, the fact that it was only administered once a day. So would it matter if it was 50mgs or 25mgs? Just don't break up the dosages. Obviously, 50 would stress the liver more... although, you would think not nearly as much as 25 in the am and 25 in the pm.

[edvedr]

Your question mark at the end is confusing though. I thought you were making points but then I realized you were just asking questions. Lmao

lol

[Bouncer]

By the way rocket, certain assumptions can be made. Like dosage Vs side effects. The higher the dose the worse the side effects, natural shut down etc.. Same goes for liquer, rec drugs etc..

[Bouncer]

Good points and thats why I am asking.

Your question mark at the end is confusing though. I thought you were making points but then I realized you were just asking questions. Lmao

[ROCKETW19]

you really need to put more effort in for fucks sake. lol.

you can see that it is saying 100mgs per day had an effect on shutting down hormone levels correct? well thats all you need to understand. 100mgs per day which is a high does DID NOT completely shut the subjects down. so it only stands to reason that 1/4th of 100mgs.... 25mgs would have a much smaller effect on shut down.

do you understand, or do you want to play rocket retard some more? :retard:

LOL, I got the part where it only shut off 40% but what does that actually mean? what effects does that have on you? dont play smart guy cuz you dont have any clue either.

your reasoning about 1/4 the dose makes sence but that dont mean its right. Thats your own version of bro science that I though you were trying to get away from?

[Bouncer]

I have no clue what any of that means

you really need to put more effort in for fucks sake. lol.

you can see that it is saying 100mgs per day had an effect on shutting down hormone levels correct? well thats all you need to understand. 100mgs per day which is a high does DID NOT completely shut the subjects down. so it only stands to reason that 1/4th of 100mgs.... 25mgs would have a much smaller effect on shut down.

do you understand, or do you want to play rocket retard some more? :retard:

[ROCKETW19]

"In a study done in the early 80’s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it’s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it’s original value, and FSH went down about a third"

I have no clue what any of that means