Bad reaction to test

[Bouncer]

i like IGF lr3 a little better then ghrp. both are great though.

[COLOSSUS]

Cool.

Def all good options that I will consider when I decide to jump back on and figure out wtf is goin on with my hormones

Thanks guys

[COLOSSUS]

ghrp vs igf1 lr3 vs var

in regards to prices ghrp is lookin like my best bet....not trying to be cheap just dont see the point in spending tons of cash on something that will give me similar effects as this.

but these are the three that im def gonna try.

any advice on these... been reading the logs and it seems that its hit n miss with the 2 different ghrp according to rado

and from what b says its similar to igf1 but the igf1 seems to come out on top... in my personal experience with igf1 i didnt really notice anything but i might have reconstituted it wrong...actually im pretty damn sure i did

how do these peptides compare to an as like var?

i have a source for var at the moment and was planning on gettting my peptides from rui

just lookin for more input and waiting to do more research before i do anything

oh and im gonna wait till i get this hormone shit sorted out of course

[Chadd77]

tren is an absolute disaster for me. mentally i have never felt so out of control on tren. it was truly fucken scary.

I couldn't agree more. I only ran tren for my shows but it made me a complete mess. Never slept more than a couple hours on it. I was very short tempered on it. Made me feel like a different person. Results were decent but not worth sides.

[Bouncer]

ghrp vs igf1 lr3 vs var

in regards to prices ghrp is lookin like my best bet....not trying to be cheap just dont see the point in spending tons of cash on something that will give me similar effects as this.

but these are the three that im def gonna try.

any advice on these... been reading the logs and it seems that its hit n miss with the 2 different ghrp according to rado

and from what b says its similar to igf1 but the igf1 seems to come out on top... in my personal experience with igf1 i didnt really notice anything but i might have reconstituted it wrong...actually im pretty damn sure i did

how do these peptides compare to an as like var?

i have a source for var at the moment and was planning on gettting my peptides from rui

just lookin for more input and waiting to do more research before i do anything

oh and im gonna wait till i get this hormone shit sorted out of course

i did both ghrp-2 and 6. ghrp 2 is the stronger of the ghrp's. but if you read at the end of my ghrp log i got a slight bit of gyno towards the end due to ghrp's ability to increase progesterone.

as for the igf. remember, there is a big difference between igf and igf-lr3. the lr3 is what you want. i used igf back in the day and got nothing from it.

the benefit of lr3 compared to the ghrp's is that there are no sides at all like gyno for sensative people like me and you.

[Bouncer]

And I loved it:)

yea but there is a good chance the shit i used back then was completely fake. was like 6 years ago from some no name company.

[COLOSSUS]

yea i think i might have had a go with the non lypholized version back in the day and didnt get shit from it

ill give the lr3 and the var a try separately and see what i react better to

thanks again guys

ill keep you posted

[dago]

Thanks dago winny is something iv beenlookin at for sure but leaning more towards var cause my joints are already jacked from wrestling/bjj/ biking etc

Always good to get info from experience

How were your joints affected or did you supplement with fish oils etc..

Winny never affected my joints at all bro and yea I always use fish oil

[jack tors]

winny by itself is just dumb. all orals arent worth it IMO. just out there for ppl scared of needles.

you have hormonal issues so lets run tren! one of the most potent androgens you can get much more than test 10X (raises igf-1 levels by 200%) and is notorious for prolactin/ estrogen related sides. i had gyno almost instantly after taking it ROFL. good call Rado

[jack tors]

Here's a hypothetical for you guys see if you can clear something up for me. Iv done my share of research and know the effects of what I am asking so bare with me its just a question.

From my experience with test it seems that even with serms/ ai I seem to be effected severely by estrogen due to either aromitization and or rebound when coming off.
And I v tried nolva/letro/clomid during or 3 weeks after etc etc...

Now for my question...is there any safe AS/way of takin an AS by itself and not having take test along with it?

I know the base of every cycle should always be test but I don't know if its something with my natural hormones/ genes that react poorly to the up in test but I feel that test just gets me everytime having me battling gyno problems left and right.

This is just in case late along the line I want to get back on and not have to worry about estrogen problems.

what did your cycle look like exactly? break it down.. how many weeks? test E?

bad reaction to test seems you get estrogen related sides. bloating from test. i would be curious to see if your dosing appropriately and doing anything to reduce bloat

[dago]

winny by itself is just dumb. all orals arent worth it IMO. just out there for ppl scared of needles.

you have hormonal issues so lets run tren! one of the most potent androgens you can get much more than test 10X (raises igf-1 levels by 200%) and is notorious for prolactin/ estrogen related sides. i had gyno almost instantly after taking it ROFL. good call Rado

I have never taken winny oral always water base inject and never from a UGL good old fashioned winny made right here in the states did me just fine

[dago]

[QUOTE=jack tors;577376]winny by itself is just dumb.

I aggree it is much better stacked with test for sure

[COLOSSUS]

i think i was running test e at 400 with eq at 600 / 16 weeks

im always bloated. i eat fast so i get really bloated so i cant really tell haha