Its time! Cycle thoughts and opinions please

[ROCKETW19]

I agree with the fucking douche bag:).

Say you are sorry and I know all!:)

Ill have my chica type out the study tonight Mr I

[Bouncer]

Say you are sorry and I know all!:)

Ill have my chica type out the study tonight Mr I

just scan the fucken paper you god damn cheap fuck.

[ROCKETW19]

Hepatotoxicity Sides
(BSP is a marker of liver stress)
20mgs of var produced 72% less BSP retention than an equal dose of 20mgs fluoxymesterone)

20mgs per day for 12 weeks showed no significant change in liver
40mgs per day for 12 weeks showed a increase of 30-50% in liver enzyme values
80mgs per day for 12 weeks showed a increase of 50-100% in liver enzymes

Cholesterol
20mgs 12 weeks caused a 30% reduction in good (HDL)
40mgs 12 weeks 33%
80mgs 12 weeks 50%
and a 30-33% in crease in bad (LDL) in the 40 and 80mgs group
also causes higher blood pressure no % was given

I did not know it had cholesterol sides like that didnt realy matter to me anyways as I do not use it or any orals any more.
I just took the important parts and skipped all the BS talk but there is a increase in liver enzymes we all know that and I wish I had a study on dbol or anadrol to see the difference. although I am sure it is huge.

[Mr I]

That's actuallt brilliant info Rocket and I really appreciate the help bro. Now that I'm better informed I'm happy with just 8 weeks and no more at 70mg, I will take extra good cholesterol and also use benecol or similar and drink extra water. Its no suprise that the study completely blitzes rados nanchalant opinion.

[Bouncer]

I don't understand how 20mg had no effect but 40mg increased liver enzymes by 50%. seems odd to me.

[ROCKETW19]

I don't understand how 20mg had no effect but 40mg increased liver enzymes by 50%. seems odd to me.

it was 30-50% at 40mgs maybe 20mgs just raised it 10-15% and thats no big deal to them????

look at the cholestrol 20 and 40mgs were almost the same and then almost doubled at 80mgs.

one thing I liked is it showed the big difference there is from person to person.

[dago]

Good thread..good luck Mr.I

[Mr I]

Picked up a nice little package, another month or so then I start:thumup:

[ROCKETW19]

Picked up a nice little package, another month or so then I start:thumup:

:thumup:

[Mr I]

Just getting everythinh together, don't think I'll be needing any anti e whilr on but now have my nolva and clomid for pct, got some HMG for intermitent shots while on. Just debating whether to throw in some GH, strength increase will come on quick with var and I can use the 8 weeks to pound some weight and lean right up with GH. Hmmm...

[ROCKETW19]

Just getting everythinh together, don't think I'll be needing any anti e whilr on but now have my nolva and clomid for pct, got some HMG for intermitent shots while on. Just debating whether to throw in some GH, strength increase will come on quick with var and I can use the 8 weeks to pound some weight and lean right up with GH. Hmmm...

If you have a good GH guy then I say fuck ya add it.
I have been with out GH since ORD and I finaly just got a good guy and I remember why I loved it so much.

[Bouncer]

i will never understand using both clomid and nolvadex. clomid is a shitty version of nolvadex with more sides.

[Mr I]

i will never understand using both clomid and nolvadex. clomid is a shitty version of nolvadex with more sides.

I would normally agree but I've learned different and its the same reason I use HMG not HCG

[Mr I]

Done some further reading, anavar increeses gh release anyway hence why its prescribed to kids of short stature so no point getting extra gh for my purposes. Just started with 30mg var and one shot propionate.

Game on!

[Mr I]

First workout on, legs.

Back at the bbing gym so many more equipment pieces to chose from. Kept it simple and light today with 20 rep sets, no point jumping in on stuff I haven't used in ages like hacks squat with heavy 6 rep sets right away. Gotta get myself used to the stuff for one workout first. No strength increase to speak of but it felt a little easier somehow and more determined.