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  • #16
    Originally posted by auri View Post
    I'm a big fan of trying several methods and seeing what works best for you. I've used adex, Clomid after, etc, but just using nolva simplified things for me and it worked.

    Just make sure you have something to combat estro gyno.
    ok, thank you for the advise

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    • #17
      Originally posted by harness

      ok, thank you for the advise
      Don't forget to let us know how you're progressing, good luck.

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      • #18
        Impressive. If you have the time and care to share, I would love to see you post your training routine and diet/macros that were successful for you.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
          Impressive. If you have the time and care to share, I would love to see you post your training routine and diet/macros that were successful for you.
          ill work on putting it together when i get time and post it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by auri View Post
            Don't forget to let us know how you're progressing, good luck.
            will do, thanks again guys

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            • #21
              yea, damn good stats for a natural.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by harness View Post


                I am currently 33 yo, 6'2", 230lbs 5%bf and i train 6 days a week hard and eat clean getting about 4500-5000 calories a day, 400+ protein.

                thank you for any advise
                Originally posted by harness View Post
                i have been training for 13 years solid, strict dedication with no time off longer than 2 days. i sleep 12 hours a night 5 days a week, and just train, eat, and sleep. pretty much have no life other than that. i have tried so many workouts, everything from Flex to stuff i came up on my own and now i know my body, what works for me. But the last year, i havent gained much, my strength increases, but weight doesnt. Some say cause im to lean, but even when i try to bulk, on food, i cant put on weight. im sure i could eat some shit food and gain, but thats not the direction i want to go, id rather stay lean and put on 10 lbs. So this why i am inquiring about gear for a push.
                Originally posted by harness View Post
                i had it measured at a place called Fitness wave, it uses a hydrostatic bodyfat test, underwater.
                I call it all BS. No body is this fucking perfect. And get the fuck out of here with I sleep 12hrs a day and I haven't taken a break more than two day in 13 years BS too.

                You probably go to a high school and weigh about 150.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BEAST View Post
                  I call it all BS. No body is this fucking perfect. And get the fuck out of here with I sleep 12hrs a day and I haven't taken a break more than two day in 13 years BS too.

                  You probably go to a high school and weigh about 150.
                  Hey Bart Simpson, suck a dick! People like you are a disgrace, why the fuck would i lie? Im here looking for advice, not to lie to people i will never meet. So i think you probably described yourself with you gibber jabber, thats too bad you are only 150, probably a zit face freak too. Theres a whole world of people out there that do different things than you and your friends, because you dont sleep 12 hrs because of your homework or middle school shit talk, doesnt mean that i or someone else doesnt sleep 12 hrs. So if you dont have advice worth hearing, shut the fuck up.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by harness View Post
                    Hey Bart Simpson, suck a dick! People like you are a disgrace, why the fuck would i lie? Im here looking for advice, not to lie to people i will never meet. So i think you probably described yourself with you gibber jabber, thats too bad you are only 150, probably a zit face freak too. Theres a whole world of people out there that do different things than you and your friends, because you dont sleep 12 hrs because of your homework or middle school shit talk, doesnt mean that i or someone else doesnt sleep 12 hrs. So if you dont have advice worth hearing, shut the fuck up.
                    :rofl:

                    he is a hater bro, pay no attention, guy is a foreigner anyway. all he does is play video games all fucken day.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by harness View Post
                      Hey Bart Simpson, suck a dick! People like you are a disgrace, why the fuck would i lie? Im here looking for advice, not to lie to people i will never meet. So i think you probably described yourself with you gibber jabber, thats too bad you are only 150, probably a zit face freak too. Theres a whole world of people out there that do different things than you and your friends, because you dont sleep 12 hrs because of your homework or middle school shit talk, doesnt mean that i or someone else doesnt sleep 12 hrs. So if you dont have advice worth hearing, shut the fuck up.
                      Holy shit! in the history of this board I have never sen a bigger bitch. Really dude you come here asking about how to use 10cc gear and after 10 post become an internet though guy? get the fuck out here.
                      I bet you cried all night after reading my post and thought about what to post as a come back but you still failed to have anything intelligent to say. What a fucking looser 33 year old you are.

                      By the way I still say you are full of shit. Do you even fucking know how much food it takes to get in 400 grams of protein a day? if you gonna come to a bodybuilding forum and ask questions you should at least know that people on this board knows a thing or two about dieting and can tell when some looser comes here and claims that he is all natural 235 lbs 5% bf and eats 400 grams of protein a day and got his bf checked in a water tank, FUCK OUTTA HERE!:rofl::rofl:

                      Here is my stats: I'm sixteen and a half weigh 149 I've ben trying to break 150 for the last six months but no luck and last time I checked my bf I was around 32%. how do I know my bf? I dunk myself in my bathtub so I know for a fact it's accurate. :thumup:

                      And lastly because I'm done with thread. You can suck Bart's dick and Bouncer you can suck my dick.I'm never playing video games with you ever again:nutkick:

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                      • #26
                        LoL :D

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                        • #27
                          LOL... roid rage!!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                            LOL... roid rage!!!
                            Screw you too scrum. :nutkick: :D

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                            • #29
                              Regards.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BEAST View Post
                                Holy shit! in the history of this board I have never sen a bigger bitch. Really dude you come here asking about how to use 10cc gear and after 10 post become an internet though guy? get the fuck out here.
                                I bet you cried all night after reading my post and thought about what to post as a come back but you still failed to have anything intelligent to say. What a fucking looser 33 year old you are.

                                By the way I still say you are full of shit. Do you even fucking know how much food it takes to get in 400 grams of protein a day? if you gonna come to a bodybuilding forum and ask questions you should at least know that people on this board knows a thing or two about dieting and can tell when some looser comes here and claims that he is all natural 235 lbs 5% bf and eats 400 grams of protein a day and got his bf checked in a water tank, FUCK OUTTA HERE!:rofl::rofl:

                                Here is my stats: I'm sixteen and a half weigh 149 I've ben trying to break 150 for the last six months but no luck and last time I checked my bf I was around 32%. how do I know my bf? I dunk myself in my bathtub so I know for a fact it's accurate. :thumup:

                                And lastly because I'm done with thread. You can suck Bart's dick and Bouncer you can suck my dick.I'm never playing video games with you ever again:nutkick:
                                Its been awhile since ive been on here, but i can see that you DONT pay attention... still! I said i was 230, not 235 retard. Thanks for the credit though, its nice to get bigger and not do anything at all, probably what you do. Just put things in your butt and make them work. :thumup: After experiencing what a champ you are, i decided against gear. Id hate to end up such a cyber tough guy like you. stay solid homo

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