Tren E/Test E cycle

[Bluesteel]

hey guys im thinking about starting my 3rd cycle with tren e and test e for 16 weeks, chose these compounds as i want to lean down a little cut the bf to bout 12% while keeping my precious muscle mass:) was thinking bout running the tren e weeks 1-10 at 250mgs per week and running the test at 500mgs per week up to week 16. ive got b6 and nolvadex on hand but ive read mixed reviews on running nolva while on tren so im here to ask some tren/test veterans for some advice on what my pct should look like any help would be appreciated. Also if anyone has any other suggestions bout the cycle in general feel free to post:) My last cycle was 250 test e for 16 weeks which went quite well and i added roughly 20 pounds over the cycle and lost bout 15 during pct lol alot of water im guessing i want to try control the test e bloat a little better this time around with immacculate diet but if anyone knows any other tricks to keep the bloating at bay i would appreciate the info, i want to acheive a dry hard muscular physique after i lower my bf during this cycle:)

stats
height-6f 2
weight- 258lbs
bf-18%
been lifting for bout 4 years on and off
age-21
cycles-2

let me know wat u think guys look forward to hearin ur opinions ps im trying this as a cutting cycle although most would recommend this as a bulking cycle let me no wat u think cheers bros..

[Bouncer]

yea cycle looks fine bro, i dont believe in the nolv with tren theory. they say the same thing about nolv and gh and gh always works great for me on nolv.

keep the nolv on hand and dont run until you notice some soreness around nips etc.. you may not have any issue.

[Bluesteel]

k np cheers bro ill keep it on hand jus in case, oh btw i jus got blood work done bout a month ago and came back with my natty test a little lower than normal my guess is from my test only cycle so was wondering also if that would affect my cycle with regard to the test e dosage im on? should i up the test or would that b enough to account for my lower test levels? cheers

[Bouncer]

no just run 500mgs of test. you will gain great.

[Bluesteel]

have u had any experience with tren e bouncer? my first time on the stuff just wanted an insight into the sides experienced by ppl who used it

[Mr.Port]

You need an AI and something for tren gyno (prog).
Nolvadex will NOT lower estrogen or take aways tren or deca gyno. (could even make it worse it seems)
Look at Prami and Stane.

[Bluesteel]

im aware of the gyno issue with tren etc but im having trouble setting out my pct for a test e and tren cycle due to the fact that many ppl believe nolvadex to make tren gyno aggravated and others say it is not unheard of to use nolva while stacking test and tren, im still quite new to tren having only tried the acetate once but i want to run nolva for the test e sides as i already have it on hand. and dont want to waste it probs has a friggin expiry date or somethin would b a shame to waste it!;)

some bros suggested caber (still dont no wtf that is or where to find it lol sounds like it grows in the bush lmao will def research it asap tho) or vit b6 caps so i bought 100mg b6 caps for prog sides will that be enough and its difficult for me at the moment to get my hands on any AI which is y im usin the nolva if anyone else has any info on tren pct protocols plz dont be shy to share your 2 c cos i could use all the help i can get on the mysterious compound (its so controversial theres too many mixed opinions)
thanks in advance fellas;)!!!

[Bouncer]

have u had any experience with tren e bouncer? my first time on the stuff just wanted an insight into the sides experienced by ppl who used it

you dont wanna hear what i have to say about tren e bro. lol

i hate it more then any steroid i ever ran. put my mind in a nightmare type state constantly and got really sore sensitive nips. bad stress and anxiety. will never use tren again.

test and gh for me.

[Bluesteel]

u no funny thing i swear after i ran tren a for 8 weeks i got very depressed and anxious to the point where i developed insomnia but didnt no which compound did it though i think it might of been the rebound after my pct and low test which affected my brain but maby tren is not for me sounds a little too much for me i could prob see great results on something less harsh
well seeing as i havnt yet got any gear on hand yet wat could i sub for the tren keep in mind i want to drop body fat on this cycle

[Bouncer]

If you have the money Gh.

Test and diet alone is fine too

[Bluesteel]

im a little worried to try hgh cos i havent read up too much about it only that it can increase the size of ur organs etc but im guessing that would be from abusing it? well i would be willing to give it a go after a little more research did u use oral or injectable?

[Bouncer]

Lol, forget Gh bro you not ready for it.

There is no oral and it doesn't grow your organs.

[Bluesteel]

k well i think im jus gonna stick with the test tren e stack ill try it out n if i get bad sides ill stop and start pct earlier wen i jump on the gear ill post some progressives for yall to look at cheers for the help fellas peace:)

[ROCKETW19]

hey guys im thinking about starting my 3rd cycle with tren e and test e for 16 weeks, chose these compounds as i want to lean down a little cut the bf to bout 12% while keeping my precious muscle mass:) was thinking bout running the tren e weeks 1-10 at 250mgs per week and running the test at 500mgs per week up to week 16. ive got b6 and nolvadex on hand but ive read mixed reviews on running nolva while on tren so im here to ask some tren/test veterans for some advice on what my pct should look like any help would be appreciated. Also if anyone has any other suggestions bout the cycle in general feel free to post:) My last cycle was 250 test e for 16 weeks which went quite well and i added roughly 20 pounds over the cycle and lost bout 15 during pct lol alot of water im guessing i want to try control the test e bloat a little better this time around with immacculate diet but if anyone knows any other tricks to keep the bloating at bay i would appreciate the info, i want to acheive a dry hard muscular physique after i lower my bf during this cycle:)

stats
height-6f 2
weight- 258lbs
bf-18%
been lifting for bout 4 years on and off
age-21
cycles-2

let me know wat u think guys look forward to hearin ur opinions ps im trying this as a cutting cycle although most would recommend this as a bulking cycle let me no wat u think cheers bros..

if your last cycle "went quite well" why would you change anything?

I too read about no nolva with tren it does something with the progestrone and makes sides act up. I just read sorry no first hand experance as I do not need nolva cept PCT

[ROCKETW19]

yea cycle looks fine bro, i dont believe in the nolv with tren theory. they say the same thing about nolv and gh and gh always works great for me on nolv.

keep the nolv on hand and dont run until you notice some soreness around nips etc.. you may not have any issue.

not the same thing bro nolva and Gh is suposed to make the IGF not work as effective.

Nolva and tren is suposed to flair up progestrone gyno easy