Tren E/Test E cycle

[ROCKETW19]

once again you read my words wrong.

i understand its not the same thing. that's pretty obvious.

making a point that much like the bro science of nolv and gh being bad together.. i have my doubts about nolv making proges gyno any worse.

lol figures, but at least I understand what you are saying now,

not sure if the nolva and progestrone is true either as i never did it or tried it. I dont get estro sides so there was never a need. but I do read all over the place about it so it might be true and might not? could even be one of thoes things where each is different

they also say kill estrogen and you can not get progestrone sides, that for me is false as shit but everyone says it????????

[BamBam179]

Like I said I can't vouch for it by experience but I've read ghrp should be ran for 4mon min as you won't grow a tolerance. So with long use of either it seems as it could be comparable

[Bouncer]

If ever considering gh, I would just go with ghrp-6. Cheaper and I've read that it can yeild similar results as synthetic gh especially if adding cjc.

not exactly. ghrp has its place but its dont compare to long term gh use (6 months min) not in same league

[BamBam179]

im a little worried to try hgh cos i havent read up too much about it only that it can increase the size of ur organs etc but im guessing that would be from abusing it? well i would be willing to give it a go after a little more research did u use oral or injectable?

If ever considering gh, I would just go with ghrp-6. Cheaper and I've read that it can yeild similar results as synthetic gh especially if adding cjc. Can't say by personal experience as I'm waiting till I get settled into my new home. As for gyno with tren, progesterone can be countered with bromocriptine or letro (although a lot of people don't like it, it helps with both estrogen and progesterone). Test prop has less bloat. And as bouncer said diet is key for fat loss. But as u increase lean mass ur Bf will read lower anyway.

[Bouncer]

reason i wanted to add it in is cos i want to lean out n drop bout 5% bf is that even possible to achieve with test if so then ill just take the test at 500mgs on its own would be much easier as im not too keen on stacking any thoughts on dosages of test higher lower or keep the same if running it on its own?

bro the key to fat loss is diet. it is by FAR the single most important factor. i dont understand why people continue to underestimate what diet can do.

people talk all the time about drugs and training and disregard diet as if its secondary.

[Bouncer]

not the same thing bro nolva and Gh is suposed to make the IGF not work as effective.

Nolva and tren is suposed to flair up progestrone gyno easy

once again you read my words wrong.

i understand its not the same thing. that's pretty obvious.

making a point that much like the bro science of nolv and gh being bad together.. i have my doubts about nolv making proges gyno any worse.

[Bluesteel]

reason i wanted to add it in is cos i want to lean out n drop bout 5% bf is that even possible to achieve with test if so then ill just take the test at 500mgs on its own would be much easier as im not too keen on stacking any thoughts on dosages of test higher lower or keep the same if running it on its own?

[ROCKETW19]

its simple bro you are using tren A start out at the 250 you said and if progestrone sides pop up lower the dose to 200mgs.

but still dont know why you are adding when last cycle went so well

[ROCKETW19]

yea cycle looks fine bro, i dont believe in the nolv with tren theory. they say the same thing about nolv and gh and gh always works great for me on nolv.

keep the nolv on hand and dont run until you notice some soreness around nips etc.. you may not have any issue.

not the same thing bro nolva and Gh is suposed to make the IGF not work as effective.

Nolva and tren is suposed to flair up progestrone gyno easy

[ROCKETW19]

hey guys im thinking about starting my 3rd cycle with tren e and test e for 16 weeks, chose these compounds as i want to lean down a little cut the bf to bout 12% while keeping my precious muscle mass:) was thinking bout running the tren e weeks 1-10 at 250mgs per week and running the test at 500mgs per week up to week 16. ive got b6 and nolvadex on hand but ive read mixed reviews on running nolva while on tren so im here to ask some tren/test veterans for some advice on what my pct should look like any help would be appreciated. Also if anyone has any other suggestions bout the cycle in general feel free to post:) My last cycle was 250 test e for 16 weeks which went quite well and i added roughly 20 pounds over the cycle and lost bout 15 during pct lol alot of water im guessing i want to try control the test e bloat a little better this time around with immacculate diet but if anyone knows any other tricks to keep the bloating at bay i would appreciate the info, i want to acheive a dry hard muscular physique after i lower my bf during this cycle:)

stats
height-6f 2
weight- 258lbs
bf-18%
been lifting for bout 4 years on and off
age-21
cycles-2

let me know wat u think guys look forward to hearin ur opinions ps im trying this as a cutting cycle although most would recommend this as a bulking cycle let me no wat u think cheers bros..

if your last cycle "went quite well" why would you change anything?

I too read about no nolva with tren it does something with the progestrone and makes sides act up. I just read sorry no first hand experance as I do not need nolva cept PCT

[Bluesteel]

k well i think im jus gonna stick with the test tren e stack ill try it out n if i get bad sides ill stop and start pct earlier wen i jump on the gear ill post some progressives for yall to look at cheers for the help fellas peace:)

[Bouncer]

Lol, forget Gh bro you not ready for it.

There is no oral and it doesn't grow your organs.

[Bluesteel]

im a little worried to try hgh cos i havent read up too much about it only that it can increase the size of ur organs etc but im guessing that would be from abusing it? well i would be willing to give it a go after a little more research did u use oral or injectable?

[Bouncer]

If you have the money Gh.

Test and diet alone is fine too

[Bluesteel]

u no funny thing i swear after i ran tren a for 8 weeks i got very depressed and anxious to the point where i developed insomnia but didnt no which compound did it though i think it might of been the rebound after my pct and low test which affected my brain but maby tren is not for me sounds a little too much for me i could prob see great results on something less harsh
well seeing as i havnt yet got any gear on hand yet wat could i sub for the tren keep in mind i want to drop body fat on this cycle