Converting the new Revalor 200 into Tren Ace

[rado]

I know this has been beaten into the ground and Im new to this so any advice will help. I just did my first conversion as an experiment with one cart of revo 200. I did it before reading all this and I apparently made every possible mistake. I didnt use a kit, I bought everything separately. I used HEET and made a solubilizer made from 4g of NaOH and 100ml of water. When I mixed in NaOH H2O mix it instantly crystallized, I let it sit for an hour anyway and then mixed another 500ml of water in. I filtered that solution a couple times but it seemed to get all the crystals out the first time around. I used a different filter the second time and didnt seem to get anything out of it. I used about 1-1.5 gallons of water to filter it but I almost feel like I lost some yield when I filtered it. I did also bake it at the lowest possible temp which was about 150. I ended up with exactly 1g, which I should've had closer to 2. Here's a pic of what it ended up looking like. Aside from the obvious, where did I go wrong? I really prefer to do things as DIY as possible mostly for knowledge's sake. Ill probably buy a kit and try it again to not waste any more money but would like any info possible to help next time I want to do it the most cost effective way. Much appreciated guys.

I have no clue wtf that is or how that happened; that sucks.

I really don't understand why people are not ordering kits or not being able to find a good reliable company who has them; GOOGLE it.

My GUESS is that you ruined it when you used the HEET. Either not enough or too much. As I've mentioned before. I'm far from a chemist nor do I like science; I learned my process through tons of reading stuff from the boards and experimenting more than enough to have made the process, simple as apple pie.

I'm NEW to this board(But I have been doing synovex-H and Fina conversions since 1999... up until a couple years back... raws are far better(easier too, but also better.. if you have top notch raws))

OP, Your 'method' is right on the money except for one detail...(I'll hold off on that detail for now, because I want to make sure that I'm understanding you clearly before I say that this detail is 'off'... because I could have missed it somewhere in the post... You obviously know what you are doing!! and your finished product looks GREAT!!!)
I'll also add this little piece of info... I was a chem major in college(was actually planning on going into pharmaceutical research... and decided, for my own ethical reasons, that I didn't want to be associated with the scum that is Big Pharma!!!) I did, however, go through the schooling, and have a VERY thorough educational background in chem, as well as Real World chem experience(MANY years!)

That being said,(and, if you would like to pm me regarding this, feel free... I want to clear this up in my mind, and if it is as I'm thinking, I would like to clear it up for you as well... there's far more potential than what you are reaping from this conversion...)

The 'estro remover', explain to me what you are doing with this, in order to remove the estradiol from the solution of tren ace/estradiol, and solvents.. The HEET method is 'partial crystallization'(using the cold distilled water.. as you have shown you have a full grasp on... even though you aren't using the HEET method). Is that also how you are using the 'estro remover'?(The same way as is done in the HEET method.... only, with 'estro remover' instead?)(this is where I missed something you had written...), if so, how many times are you doing the partial crystallization?
Also, how are you 'harvesting' the tren ace once you have done the crystallization?(I ask this because it tends to be VERY 'sticky' and is nearly impossible to get it off the glassware to a high enough degree, that you aren't losing a significant amount of your tren.

OP, if you would clear me up on those questions I would greatly appreciate it.... I think that, unless I missed something completely, in your write up, it's possible for you to get a much better yield, as well as purity of product(meaning tren ace... without ANY estradiol still in it)

Not to be an ass man, but I'm not going to explain myself AGAIN when I have clearly posted hundreds(literally)of times on how exactly to convert reva.

Since you have so much to share, why don't you post it in this thread for others to read:) Everyone seems to have a couple of methods on how this process should be done. I know one way, you seem to know another way; so post away.

If kits ever become obsolete, then I will be forced to make my own solution(s). Until that millennium comes, I'm alright:D

And btw;

If you still can't understand wtf I've posted, don't know what to tell you.

[DirtyFinger]

Revalor process.

I wanted to post this so people have an idea at least on how to make it. If you've made syno into prop, then it's same process pretty much. If you have NO PATIENCE, then step away from the making process; you will fail at it:D

I know it looks hard to do(and it is at first IMO), but once you've done it a few times(or over 100 times), it will be easy stuff.

If you have any questions, post them here.

Step #4 and #5 is IMO where everyone fucks up due to no patience.

Thanks for the pics. This helps a lot; screwed up two carts on my first run. When I went to filter and rinse, it looked like globs of white glue. How much water are you using to drip to form the crystals? From the pics looks like about 8 oz or so.
This is the plan for next time:
2 carts revalor 200 2unit kit with ester solution.
Dissolve pellets
Syringe filter instead of coffee filter
Add solution and let sit for 1 hour
Drip 8 oz of distilled water into solution over 30 mins in refrigerator and let sit for another 30 min in refrigerator
Filter with painter’s cap and rinse with 2 gallons of distilled water
Let dry
Am I close this time? Any help is appreciated…

[Bouncer]

I'm NEW to this board(But I have been doing synovex-H and Fina conversions since 1999... up until a couple years back... raws are far better(easier too, but also better.. if you have top notch raws))

OP, Your 'method' is right on the money except for one detail...(I'll hold off on that detail for now, because I want to make sure that I'm understanding you clearly before I say that this detail is 'off'... because I could have missed it somewhere in the post... You obviously know what you are doing!! and your finished product looks GREAT!!!)
I'll also add this little piece of info... I was a chem major in college(was actually planning on going into pharmaceutical research... and decided, for my own ethical reasons, that I didn't want to be associated with the scum that is Big Pharma!!!) I did, however, go through the schooling, and have a VERY thorough educational background in chem, as well as Real World chem experience(MANY years!)

That being said,(and, if you would like to pm me regarding this, feel free... I want to clear this up in my mind, and if it is as I'm thinking, I would like to clear it up for you as well... there's far more potential than what you are reaping from this conversion...)

The 'estro remover', explain to me what you are doing with this, in order to remove the estradiol from the solution of tren ace/estradiol, and solvents.. The HEET method is 'partial crystallization'(using the cold distilled water.. as you have shown you have a full grasp on... even though you aren't using the HEET method). Is that also how you are using the 'estro remover'?(The same way as is done in the HEET method.... only, with 'estro remover' instead?)(this is where I missed something you had written...), if so, how many times are you doing the partial crystallization?
Also, how are you 'harvesting' the tren ace once you have done the crystallization?(I ask this because it tends to be VERY 'sticky' and is nearly impossible to get it off the glassware to a high enough degree, that you aren't losing a significant amount of your tren.

OP, if you would clear me up on those questions I would greatly appreciate it.... I think that, unless I missed something completely, in your write up, it's possible for you to get a much better yield, as well as purity of product(meaning tren ace... without ANY estradiol still in it)

Have you ever heard of tren F? it's ronin's special brew. basically you get rid of all the tren in the product and leave behind just the estrogen.

his tren F has worked wonders for him over the past few years. he holds tons of water, has zero tren sides, and never achieves that hard "tren look" even with a clean diet. yup, his tren F is the real deal I tell ya!

[BEAST]

Have you ever heard of tren F? it's ronin's special brew. basically you get rid of all the tren in the product and leave behind just the estrogen.

his tren F has worked wonders for him over the past few years. he holds tons of water, has zero tren sides, and never achieves that hard "tren look" even with a clean diet. yup, his tren F is the real deal I tell ya!

Lol lol lol. :rofl:

[rado]

Have you ever heard of tren F? it's ronin's special brew. basically you get rid of all the tren in the product and leave behind just the estrogen.

his tren F has worked wonders for him over the past few years. he holds tons of water, has zero tren sides, and never achieves that hard "tren look" even with a clean diet. yup, his tren F is the real deal I tell ya!

I actually lol...but don't be a tool and fuck up the thread:slap: do it on another thread.

[rado]

Thanks for the pics. This helps a lot; screwed up two carts on my first run. When I went to filter and rinse, it looked like globs of white glue. How much water are you using to drip to form the crystals? From the pics looks like about 8 oz or so.
This is the plan for next time:
2 carts revalor 200 2unit kit with ester solution.
Dissolve pellets
Syringe filter instead of coffee filter
Add solution and let sit for 1 hour
Drip 8 oz of distilled water into solution over 30 mins in refrigerator and let sit for another 30 min in refrigerator
Filter with painter’s cap and rinse with 2 gallons of distilled water
Let dry
Am I close this time? Any help is appreciated…

Not trying to be an ass...but I've posted how it should be done; several times. But your method seems fine except I do a few things differently.

[mrniceguy215]

so i have been trying to convert rev, i tried once and failed then tried again and got a yeild of about 2.5 g from 2 karts really shitty and i dont think i even did it properly my crystals where white. I have been following basskiller convert for syno and using heat and lye for the estro.

1st question. when i drip water into the solution it looks like a layered cake with frothy thick stuff on top heet in the middle and milky heet on the bottom is this what it is supposed to look like?

2nd question. when i dissolve it in heet and filter the binders and filler there is not anything left in the filter to see with the naked eye is that how it should be?

3rd question. if i wanted to use dissolvent formula insterad of heet how much would i use for 2 karts or 4 gram.

i love this thread and appreciate any and all respnses

[STSZ06vette]

^^ I didnt use HEET but after the water drip process you could def tell the bottom 2-3 of the cup was the solid matter that crystalized(whitish color) and the rest was water (fairly clear). HOWEVER when i went to dry that mix out after doing the washing method with mix in a coffee filter....I never could get the mix to DRY out...not even after 4 days so something went wrong...only thing I can think of is a very small amount of oil (from the kit) made its way into the mix after filtering prior to water dripping in the fridge method....i figure even a tiny bit of oil would not allow the mix to dry OUT and crystalize....i did Ronins process step by step but also felt like my kit was OFF on the amounts of the "magic solution" because I had a VERY hard time getting the pellets to dissolve and filter...NOT LIKE a reg FINA kit that filtered just fine through a coffee filter minus a small amount of Gunk....BTW this was my first Revalor experiment with 2 karts...should have used 1 to start like Everyone said but since I had done so many Fina conversions in the past I didnt think this would be that hard...
STILL some one please answer this directly without being a smart ass as NOBODY has clearly done so...
AFTER you end up with the dry crystals/Powder can you just add your carrier oil and filter into sterile vial and thats it or treat it like a regular Fina kit....it seems like you would just add your carrier oil and filter and your done because you already broke down all the chemicals and shouldnt have to break it down any further correct?
Thank you and for the record IM DONE WITH KITS ALL TOGETHER...some of you on here keep saying "GOOGLE" it and trust me its NOT that easy...i google searched for a good 6 hrs and could only Find Mavricks which looks to be GONE as of this writing...so various other sites found by googling will allow me to piece my OWN BULK DIY kit far cheaper and I'll know 100% that my measurements are spot on...

[Bouncer]

LOL, this thread has gone WAY over Ronins head at this point.

[rado]

LOL, this thread has gone WAY over Ronins head at this point.

not at all bro lol

more like the members are making it harder than it is.

[rado]

^^ I didnt use HEET but after the water drip process you could def tell the bottom 2-3 of the cup was the solid matter that crystalized(whitish color) and the rest was water (fairly clear). HOWEVER when i went to dry that mix out after doing the washing method with mix in a coffee filter....I never could get the mix to DRY out...not even after 4 days so something went wrong...only thing I can think of is a very small amount of oil (from the kit) made its way into the mix after filtering prior to water dripping in the fridge method....i figure even a tiny bit of oil would not allow the mix to dry OUT and crystalize....i did Ronins process step by step but also felt like my kit was OFF on the amounts of the "magic solution" because I had a VERY hard time getting the pellets to dissolve and filter...NOT LIKE a reg FINA kit that filtered just fine through a coffee filter minus a small amount of Gunk....BTW this was my first Revalor experiment with 2 karts...should have used 1 to start like Everyone said but since I had done so many Fina conversions in the past I didnt think this would be that hard...
STILL some one please answer this directly without being a smart ass as NOBODY has clearly done so...
AFTER you end up with the dry crystals/Powder can you just add your carrier oil and filter into sterile vial and thats it or treat it like a regular Fina kit....it seems like you would just add your carrier oil and filter and your done because you already broke down all the chemicals and shouldnt have to break it down any further correct?
Thank you and for the record IM DONE WITH KITS ALL TOGETHER...some of you on here keep saying "GOOGLE" it and trust me its NOT that easy...i google searched for a good 6 hrs and could only Find Mavricks which looks to be GONE as of this writing...so various other sites found by googling will allow me to piece my OWN BULK DIY kit far cheaper and I'll know 100% that my measurements are spot on...

after you have dry crystals, yes you can...dry crystals is the key...not moist or any other shit:D Hope that wasn't smart ass enough for you lol.


people..........this thread and conversion is not that hard; come on. if you follow my detailed, or better yet picture process....you'll be fine:D

[Tyrannical]

Apologies for the "necro-post" I do have a question, however. My box of Rev-200 has 10 doses, each one yields 200mg tren and 20mg estro.

OP, your extraction process is to separate the 2 compounds. However will there be a loss of tren through this process? If so I should probably get my hands on more than 1 box of the Rev?

Thanks in advance,

[staysemper]

Thanks for all the info guys! I can seem to only find 100 packs rev, but still seems with it. Going to try to get everything ordered and follow step by step what has been posted.

[staysemper]

after you have dry crystals, yes you can...dry crystals is the key...not moist or any other shit:D Hope that wasn't smart ass enough for you lol.


people..........this thread and conversion is not that hard; come on. if you follow my detailed, or better yet picture process....you'll be fine:D

You're right, it doesn't sound hard, but I haven't done it before so it's new. Shit, if I lived near you I would pay for a training session! :thumb:

That said, now I'm am just writing down the steps so it is easier for me to follow, finding/shopping for the stuff, then waiting.

[rado]

Apologies for the "necro-post" I do have a question, however. My box of Rev-200 has 10 doses, each one yields 200mg tren and 20mg estro.

OP, your extraction process is to separate the 2 compounds. However will there be a loss of tren through this process? If so I should probably get my hands on more than 1 box of the Rev?

Thanks in advance,

There's been rumors stating it's about a 3-4% loss during conversion for years now. Who really knows? I can tell you that no matter the amount it is, people would still make it if they could.

You're right, it doesn't sound hard, but I haven't done it before so it's new. Shit, if I lived near you I would pay for a training session! :thumb:

That said, now I'm am just writing down the steps so it is easier for me to follow, finding/shopping for the stuff, then waiting.

Agreed!

Easier to do when you've had years of doing/making it:thumb: I remember fucking up a few times and I've done that as well in recent years. It sucks for sure lol:agreed: