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  • #16
    slin doesnt HAVE to be run with GH but its a much better combo.

    slin with test you have to be very very strict with diet to avoid easy fat gain.

    unless you are low body fat slin will just make you look like shit. on the otherhand if you are very lean slin will blow the muscles up giving you full lean look.

    as for you 2 and your bickering, take that shit to pm.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rauschenberg MD View Post
      Erm, that was obviously meant ironically...



      Thanks for the constructive criticism. I'll keep that in mind.



      You are right about Sustanon. I decided to shoot 250mg/e3d.

      Slin will be 5 IUs pre-workout with 50g dextrose, and followed by (50g protein, 10g creatine and glutamine, 30 g dextrose) shake post workout.
      To answer your question, I want to use Insulin because of its superiority to any known chemical used in bodybuilding. This ain't no first cycle, I'm aware of all potential issues that come with recreational insulin usage. You'll be amazed how much people use Insulin nowadays. It's just an exotic hormone that if used properly makes everything much easier and if you are stupid you could die.

      TB500 is Thymosin Beta 4 as noted in an upper post of mine.
      I think if you are gonna run slin 5ius would be the place to start. But I still say no need for it in us rec bodybuilders.
      but I am also sure other think I am silly for using GH so give it a try.


      what were your stats age, weight, ect ect just curious

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      • #18
        Oh just noticed pre workout what is the reason pre over post?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rauschenberg MD View Post
          Erm, that was obviously meant ironically...



          Thanks for the constructive criticism. I'll keep that in mind.



          You are right about Sustanon. I decided to shoot 250mg/e3d.

          Slin will be 5 IUs pre-workout with 50g dextrose, and followed by (50g protein, 10g creatine and glutamine, 30 g dextrose) shake post workout.
          To answer your question, I want to use Insulin because of its superiority to any known chemical used in bodybuilding. This ain't no first cycle, I'm aware of all potential issues that come with recreational insulin usage. You'll be amazed how much people use Insulin nowadays. It's just an exotic hormone that if used properly makes everything much easier and if you are stupid you could die.

          TB500 is Thymosin Beta 4 as noted in an upper post of mine.

          i like the 5 ius pre w ... slin is a tool that if used correctly can def help achieve bodybuilding goals ... you like the log over the humilin r ?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bigscott View Post
            i like the 5 ius pre w ... slin is a tool that if used correctly can def help achieve bodybuilding goals ... you like the log over the humilin r ?
            you use pre also or both pre and post?
            I dont use it at all but seems like post would be ideal. well unless both

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            • #21
              Buddy of mine uses it pre alsop sooth wayx maise and aminos then hits with 8iu gh post workout, after pwo shake, does this 3 x per week. Tightest waist you ever saw

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                I think if you are gonna run slin 5ius would be the place to start.
                what were your stats age, weight, ect ect just curious
                I'm 31 years old, 210 lbs, 5'11" high, 9% bf

                Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                Oh just noticed pre workout what is the reason pre over post?
                Even fast acting insulin like humalog doesn't reach peak levels in a matter of minutes. Recent studies and bodybuilding practices suggest that Humalog peaks about 60 mins after the injection. So injecting Humalog pre-workout would give much better pumps and increase intra-workout anabolism anecdotally without causing much catabolism. Then after your workout Humalog levels will be at their peak and the mega shake (50g protein, 10g creatine, 10g glutamine and 30g dextrose) will be utilized optimally.
                No I don't take insulin both pre and post. I just pin 5IU pre and I take 50g Dextrose and then I have my mega shake post-workout.

                Originally posted by bigscott View Post
                ... you like the log over the humilin r ?
                In my opinion Humilin is the insulin that you should use on off days as its effects can last for up to 6+ hours (meaning it should be taken in the morning). It peaks slowly and for too long, which in turn might lead to fat gain if the diet is not optimized for high insulin levels. When it comes to pre and post workout I prefer Humalog, and it's safer too. Never take insulin if you are working out late in the night. Worst cases of hypoglycemia occur while people are sleeping.


                Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                Buddy of mine uses it pre alsop sooth wayx maise and aminos then hits with 8iu gh post workout, after pwo shake, does this 3 x per week. Tightest waist you ever saw
                Yes, Insulin does miracles if used properly.

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                • #23
                  I could never use slin post. even humulin-r gives me almost immediate shakes and weak feeling. have to have carbs immediately and just have to sort of relax after words from a feeling of weakness if that makes sense. only ever used it PWO and had pretty good results.

                  i cant stress it enough though, if your fat dont use it. you will just gain fat.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                    i cant stress it enough though, if your fat dont use it. you will just gain fat.
                    I'm 9% BF, maybe I should lean up a little bit before using insulin.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Rauschenberg MD View Post
                      I'm 9% BF, maybe I should lean up a little bit before using insulin.
                      lol no Bf is good and what you said about pre work out makes sence if it takes 1 hour to peak anyways that pretty much is post workout.

                      still not a fan of it guess I am scared but you seem to know what you want so give it a try and i would like to see a log to track progress and if you go hypo ect.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rauschenberg MD View Post

                        I'm 9% BF, maybe I should lean up a little bit before using insulin.
                        Nah lean enough. Just watch it with any fat intake for at least 2 meals after. Shit will shuttle fat right to storage.

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                        • #27
                          Given that it can cause immediate death on the first jab, what dose will you start out on in your persuit to gain a little muscle?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                            Given that it can cause immediate death on the first jab, what dose will you start out on in your persuit to gain a little muscle?
                            How so? It can be dangerous but immediate death is a bit much.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                              How so? It can be dangerous but immediate death is a bit much.
                              ya thats a bit over board. besies the OP seems to be up on all info I am sure he will have something by him at all times incase he goes Hypo.

                              But MrI I do agree with the point you were trying to make it is a bit much for me also but some are perfectly fine using it so go for it.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rauschenberg MD View Post
                                Never take insulin if you are working out late in the night. Worst cases of hypoglycemia occur while people are sleeping.
                                Ok, I'm going to pull the "No such thing as a stupid question" card out here. Does IGF-1 do the same thing?? I workout at night and have been taking 100mcgs of IGF post workout.

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