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  • Need advice fellow superior's

    Good day my fellow muscle men.

    I am 34 years old 5'11"&92 KGS body weight .goal is to do a lean , clean bulk starting march 1 .
    I have hurt my back ( L3,L4 and L5 - S 1) stopped training and took to drinking as an excuse of being depressed. Thought my life was finished . I reached a weight of 141.7 from 95 KGS . Being sick and tired of the way I looked I joined gym and started training and rehab and Pilates classes as well now I am 92 which I am quite happy.

    That's a bit about me.

    Have almost 12 years of training under me and I am still learning .

    I have mixed opinions of cycle as I have done 6-7 cycles so far each and every cry me with proper PCT every cycle I use to retain at least 70% of wat I gained with bit of increase in strength.
    I have cycled test e, test comp 250 anavar and winstrol.

    Now for lean and clean bulk wat do u guys recommend
    1) test e, DECA d- bowl with PCT for 12 weeks,
    2) test e , equipoise, master on and anavar with PCT for 12 weeks where var runs for 2 weeks after the lost shot of test e and p t after the day var finishes.
    3) test e and tren e with adex and cabaser with .5 every 3 day and p t where teen stops 2 weeks before test .
    Plz suggest me what would be the best cycle how long and wat dosages .what's for AI and its dosage
    Also can any one suggest me a same diet draft for my weight so that I can get an rough idea and change it around.
    Also I run every week 5-6 times like 5 kms is this good while on was I want lean bulk and not puffy and Johny bravo look

    Plz help me out guys
    Than for your time
    Till then cheers and peace
    Jagu

  • #2
    Welcome to sm jagu. :)
    I was kind of in a same boat as you were even though I was never heavy as you were I was fat nonetheless.
    I'd say you go with test, tren and some hgh if you can get it. Currently I'm on that cycyle and it's doing wonders.
    But at the same time, test, eq, masteron and anavar is an awesome cycle too and you'd make some great progress with that cycle too so I'd go with either one of those.

    I wouldn't do test and deca because of the water bloat.
    Good luck brother.

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    • #3
      Forgot put this in my first post but how is your diet?

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      • #4
        welcome to the forum bro.

        how long ago was your last cycle? i would rather see you do a simple and effective cycle while you get your diet and training perfectly tuned. once you get in better shape then think about adding in multiple drugs.

        test-E 400-500 per week with a strict diet and cradio 5-6 days per week.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BEAST View Post
          Forgot put this in my post but how is your diet?
          exactly. that is the BIGGEST factor here.

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          • #6
            Thank you guys for your time.

            To bouncer,

            My last cycle ended on December 8 followed by two week gap and
            PCT of clomid 200/100/50 for a period of three weeks. Now
            I am taking two months off and starting probably from march mid way it April.

            To beast,

            Thank you brother
            I want to use equipoise I don't know wat it does but I read all good
            Reviews and I want to look bit veiny.
            My favourite cycle was test e and anavar which I was using 50 KGS dumbbells on a flat bench chest press and I was lean and felt good my sides were bit thick and towards the end of the
            Cycle my belly and sides shrunk like crazy.

            My diet is as follows

            Cardio on waking up( 3 caps twin lab ripped fuel, fish oil 3 caps)

            Break fast 1 cup egg whites and two whole eggs with hlf cup boiled oats)
            After 40 mins training followed by two scoops of protein with 10 gram glutamine and 10 grams bcaa

            Meal 1 150 gram chicken breast with 1 cup brown rice with one tbsp olive oil.

            Meal 2 same but instead of rice I eat boiled sweet potato 100 gms

            Meal 3 snack 2*185 grams tuna in spring water and 1/2 avocados

            Meal 4 either steak/ fish / or chicken with large salad with only greens no tomatoes dressed with
            Lime juice and one spoon olive oil.

            Before bed I shuffle around 100 - 125 grams cottage cheese, or 2 scoops of Casienn protein
            Or 2 tbsp of peanut butter. Any one item of the above I change every day for variety.

            I take multi vitamin and live 52 for liver protection.
            I drink nearly 6-7 litres of water and while urinating I check its white in colour if not
            I increase the water quantity.

            If I feel hungry I eat a handful of almonds and drink a litre of water.

            So wat do u think guys.

            My brother is a body building trainer in India and he recommends test prop
            Bold , tren and anavar I ain't a pro I want go be safe than sorry

            So I will follow what u guys say rather my family member who wants me go take risk.

            If you have the time let me know what to do.

            Thanx once again

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            • #7
              what would you guess your current bodyfat to be? how long have you been following that diet.

              my personal opinion and the way I run steroids myself is to use as little as possible and still get results.

              i personally would like to see you run 1 steroid only instead of multiple at least until you feel like you are completely back in shape and healed up.

              I would suggest test E or C stacked with diet, cardio, training.

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              • #8
                Yes sir thank u very much.

                I will be doing test only with 12 weeks at 200 mg twice with ad ex
                On hand. PCT will be clomid after 15 days of last shot

                With all due respects to u some off them here don't listen to what u say
                I see that most of the articles u have posted are filled with lot
                Of knowledge so I trust u in this matter.
                I will keep posted what's happening
                My body fat would be around 18-20 probably and I am on this diet since 1-1-2012
                Thank u

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jagu View Post
                  Yes sir thank u very much.

                  I will be doing test only with 12 weeks at 200 mg twice with ad ex
                  On hand. PCT will be clomid after 15 days of last shot

                  With all due respects to u some off them here don't listen to what u say
                  I see that most of the articles u have posted are filled with lot
                  Of knowledge so I trust u in this matter.
                  I will keep posted what's happening
                  My body fat would be around 18-20 probably and I am on this diet since 1-1-2012
                  Thank u
                  i agree bro! everyone should listen to me! :D

                  i didnt write any of those articles though. all copy and paste.

                  i do look great though so you can still trust what i tell ya when it comes to diet and hormona! :weights:

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                  • #10
                    True indeed bro

                    Even though u cut and paste u still did the research and took the time and
                    Effort to share so hats off to u

                    Well I am going for a 4 week holiday to see my parents and will be
                    Back on march 1 St
                    I'll keep in touch with u so that u can work out a diet plan for me.

                    If u don't mind and if its test e or c or prop I'll let u know

                    I am not interested in shooting EOD so I'll stick to test e or c.

                    I was keen on teen but ur various posts gave me enough knowledge
                    To think and I take back and will not use it.

                    Also I will be getting all the item OTC from my local chemist I prefer organon brand
                    Any other good brands u know off plz let me know.

                    Than for your time bro
                    Cheers
                    Jugs

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jagu View Post
                      True indeed bro

                      Even though u cut and paste u still did the research and took the time and
                      Effort to share so hats off to u

                      Well I am going for a 4 week holiday to see my parents and will be
                      Back on march 1 St
                      I'll keep in touch with u so that u can work out a diet plan for me.

                      If u don't mind and if its test e or c or prop I'll let u know

                      I am not interested in shooting EOD so I'll stick to test e or c.

                      I was keen on teen but ur various posts gave me enough knowledge
                      To think and I take back and will not use it.

                      Also I will be getting all the item OTC from my local chemist I prefer organon brand
                      Any other good brands u know off plz let me know.

                      Than for your time bro
                      Cheers
                      Jugs
                      sounds good. diet is very important. more so then the drugs. dont under estimate it.

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                      • #12
                        Just keep it simple man

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                        • #13
                          Hi bouncer

                          How r u bro?

                          Just came back from India was an amazing trip for almost 2 months.

                          Now I managed to train a bit but food was not under control. Was
                          Eating like a pig.


                          Also I had some epidural injection to my low back( which the doctor said were some steroids).
                          Having lot of water retention and past three weeks I am eating like an elephant.

                          My weight just before this mail is 102.2 KGS . Can't believe it.

                          Well starting my training from tomorrow

                          Need help with a good cutting diet
                          Could u help

                          Than bro
                          Jugs

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jagu View Post
                            Hi bouncer

                            How r u bro?

                            Just came back from India was an amazing trip for almost 2 months.

                            Now I managed to train a bit but food was not under control. Was
                            Eating like a pig.


                            Also I had some epidural injection to my low back( which the doctor said were some steroids).
                            Having lot of water retention and past three weeks I am eating like an elephant.

                            My weight just before this mail is 102.2 KGS . Can't believe it.

                            Well starting my training from tomorrow

                            Need help with a good cutting diet
                            Could u help

                            Than bro
                            Jugs
                            Welcome back bro.

                            You could always jump back onto the diet you were on before you left for your trip. The one you posted above in post #6.

                            If your looking for new ideas and something a little more regimented you could give my diet a look and adjust it for yourself. i break down the protein, carbs, fats, and cals so it should be easy to adjust. http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...ntal-diet-plan

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                            • #15
                              Thanx B I will look into it
                              Holy shit is that u in that post side chest posing

                              U look like a beast bro

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