My Tren Ace, T3, Prami and Letro log starting now

[rado]

I came off the T3, it worked but just didn't feel good on it

I actually feel better now, seems as days go on, I feel better. Prami was not making me feel good.

[Mr I]

I actually feel better now, seems as days go on, I feel better. Prami was not making me feel good.

fair enough, your still on it then? I just found it began to reduce my apetite, headaches etc

[rado]

fair enough, your still on it then? I just found it began to reduce my apetite, headaches etc

Yea I bumped back up to 40mcgs and feel great now. I think with the Prami and T3 was too much for whatever reason. I was only taking the prami right before bed time too. No headaches but some lethargy from the T3 if I'm NOT active...Once I'm active I feel great.

[rado]

UPDATE

Taking 60mcgs of T3, got use to it finally. Feeling nice and tight, like almost as if I was dehydrated and always thirsty. Have NOT been taking the Prami but doing the letro EOD at the 3rd line of a 1ml pin, whatever dose that is lol...Fucking hard to dose when your letro is 2.5mg a ML.

Thinking about doing it ED as oppose EOD...Seems this time around not affecting as it did the first time. But been on letro for almost two weeks....Still fucking around with these liquids and doses; kind of pissing me off because I don't know what to stick with and do other than the T3 but will run for 2 more weeks and take a break from it.

T3 is strong, no joke. Just kind of hard to tell what prami is doing or letro is doing...I can say that Prami was making me feel lethargic, horny and slept the best ever in my life.

I'm glad I got two bottles of letro and prami and what I might do is drop all liquids except the T3...Wait till that is done, jump on letro EOD at 1.25ml and go from there...I still wanna give Prami a shot of at least 90 days like I said I would and didn't...Kind of pissed because I haven't stuck to my plan in regards to my liquids; keep going back and forth and all this reading from all these people have me all fucking :retard:

Either way; tren is doing well at 525mgs a week:D Man I love me some tren. My bloat is definitely very low, especially the face. BJJ and lifting is doing great...I am up to 218lbs but in all honesty, I like walking around 212-215lbs...So I'm going to hit 220lbs ASAP and lean up to those numbers and stay there.

Will be hard for me considering my diet fluctuates from day to day. I would say my diet is great 4 days out of the week. 2 days is average and one day is my cheat day fo shizzle:D

[rado]

T3 will end this week, taking two week break if not three and then MAYBE go back on. Not sure I liked the feeling of being on it but it for sure took some fat off and possibly even some muscle.

I will run letro for 4 weeks at 1.25 ED at first and if it's too much, drop to EOD, but mot dropping the dose. Other than that, I've been feeling awesome. I do take Prami here and there for sleep, but that's it.

Will post pics half way through.

[rado]

UPDATE

Will after all this I just dropped everything due to my comp and kept in the tren and been doing well. Not sure what to add in. I feel great right now and probably just gonna ride it out for now with no T3, prami or Letro; for now that is.

I had to cut weight to LHW when I walk around HW. So I dropped a lot of water and a bit of fat. Now back to the lab on training and staying healthy.

[Bouncer]

UPDATE

Will after all this I just dropped everything due to my comp and kept in the tren and been doing well. Not sure what to add in. I feel great right now and probably just gonna ride it out for now with no T3, prami or Letro; for now that is.

I had to cut weight to LHW when I walk around HW. So I dropped a lot of water and a bit of fat. Now back to the lab on training and staying healthy.

I think your better off bro. All that shit hitting you from different angles hard to know what the hell is going on.

personally, i would add in some low dose test and maybe low dose adex to control your water bloat issue.

[rado]

I think your better off bro. All that shit hitting you from different angles hard to know what the hell is going on.

personally, i would add in some low dose test and maybe low dose adex to control your water bloat issue.

I almost agree with you:)

Only taking the tren still and will continue on just for experiment purposes bro. Afterwards once blood work is done. I will see how I am internally and go from there.

But I think I'm at a point in my life that I don't need or want the gear anymore. BJJ has taken over me:D....You have no idea when I say that. I have the power, flexibility and experience that I truly feel comfortable with my own body no matter how big or small I am; mind you I will never let myself get small;)

But I love tren,,,,,,,,,,,,LOVE IT:inlove: makes me feel like a fucking Hulk!!!!

I do think adding all those chems fucked me up because you know this was a first for me with all these chems. Usually it was just Dex or Clen....But lesson learned.

UPDATE

Well after coming back from CA and competing...I'm back to 218lbs as of now, not holding much water because of tren only when usually I'm taking prop.

I feel great all the way around. Cardio hasn't really been an issue, but then again what do you expect when you gain 5-10lbs and surprised to see your cardio down a bit? Well duh!

My diet has probably been the best ever, not like bouncers but best ever for me due to changing a lot. I don't drink a beer or wine ED. It's more like E3D or E4D I will have a drink or two.

I am eating cleaner in a sense of I don't eat out as much and have been making more meals at home and not being such a lazy ass, well at times:)

I am making more seafood these days; especially Halibut. Not to mention I'm drinking 2 pure fruit smoothie drinks a day for example;

Acai

1 whole ripe banana

1 tbs Hemp seeds or Pumpkin seeds

1 tbs Goji berries

2 tbs Bee Pollen

1/4 cup blueberries

1/2 cup Almond Milk


Sometimes I add some Kale, honeydew, apples, blackberries, etc...All natural sugar before I roll and afterwards.

I know most of you would be like wtf?! But these types of nutrients are crucial for bjj players or just athletes who compete for 20mns or longer at a time.

[rado]

UPDATE

Well since the last update, I've moved to Mass, my rolling has dropped from 4 days a week to 2 days and lifting only 3 days.

Not rolling as much due to working tons which I have not been use to in years and I miss my school back home and definitely miss ALLIANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Got up to 219lbs and now I'm at 213lbs but nice and tight. I'm not taking any chemicals, they were fucking me up bad. I literally flushed the T3 and Cialis, I kept the Prami for sleep purposes, that's it.

I've lost some size due to not lifting or rolling like I was but not really that worried. I have ways to go before I finish my tren cycle.

[drswade]

Ronin,
You answered and helped me so I would like to give you my thoughts/experience with Cytomel/Cynomel.
I have used the Mexican Cynomel for over 20 years. I use it almost only when I use tren. As you know, it is almost necessary when on tren.
I start with a half tab for a week and finally go to the whole 25 mcg tab after that.
I have used as much as 50mcg but find it unnecessary.
25mcg will do the trick. I used it once while simply dieting and trying to lose fat, along with an ECA stack and yohimbe and I started to whither away.

It takes a while to get used to the internal furnace feeling but it goes away after a week or two.
It sometimes gives you some hot flashes but rarely.

The concern of "messing up your thyroid" is unwarranted IMO.
My thyroid has always restarted. Even if it doesn't, having to take one little tiny pill ED for the rest of your life ain't so bad.
Most guys don't give that much thought to their nuts starting back up before doing a cycle of an androgen but hem and haw about their thyroid.

I have some Parlodel because it was suggested. I can't handle it. Mega headaches and general malaise.
I suspect T3 might do the same to some people.
60 plus mcg of T3 is crazy.

In general, I find people over dose just about everything.
I use a light cycle with no noticable sides

250/50 T. enan/T. prop once a week
Two cc's of tren (75mg each?)
25mcg Cynomel daily
10 mg of Nolvadex daily

That's it!
I find I have some pretty good results and the risk to benefit ratio is good.

25 years ago, when I was 25 and competing, I used double that much and sure as hell wasn't bigger or better than I am now.
Just leaner and my joints weren't so loud. :)

[rado]

UPDATE

Almost three months in and three months more to go. No HCG, no test, balls have gotten smaller for sure. But libido hasn't been affected at all; weird. Going to have blood work done in about three weeks or so and will post results as I always have.

Rolling and lifting again, back up to 218lbs. Seems my body will just not get over that 220lb mark. I know I know...Diet diet diet...But I'm always on the go and honestly feel great at my weight because I can easily drop weight for comps in bjj.

One thing I love my tren other than giving me more strength is I'm super tight and hard like a rock. Not lean like bouncer, but I'm still very hard and tend to always have this pump. Maybe it's also because if I'm not rolling, I'm lifting, etc. So I tend to keep my body active and muscles working.

I use Prami still like once a week, barely half a CC for sleep, works wonders. But no other chem liquids, just plain old tren ace at 525mgs a week.

[blm]

I decided to give prami another shot because this deca is starting to make my nipples horribly painful. I started extremely low ( less than .1mg) and just like before I got terrible insomnia, itchy crawly skin, and twitchy muscles. I touched it out for 3 days and day 4 I slept so deeply I was confused when my alarm went off. I slowly ramped up to .25mg. I got all the same symptoms but they faded. My puffy painful nipples are gone and even if I sleep 4 hours it's such a deep rem cycle that I feel like I got 10hrs.

This was about a 3 week slow and dreadful process but it worked out. I have to take it about 2-3 hours before bed or I can't fall asleep. It's a powerful and temperamental drug (for me).

If I didn't feel so much joint relief from deca I would have just dropped it instead.

[Chadd77]

blm, how much deca are you running?

Never heard of prami before. I was going to run deca in my next cycle but at a very low dose (150mg per week). I'm very sensitive to gyno so I was hoping that 150mg was low enough to not get any sides but take advantage of some of the benefits deca can offer.

[blm]

blm, how much deca are you running?

Never heard of prami before. I was going to run deca in my next cycle but at a very low dose (150mg per week). I'm very sensitive to gyno so I was hoping that 150mg was low enough to not get any sides but take advantage of some of the benefits deca can offer.

300 per week. Didn't get any symptom until week 7. Pramipexole (Mirapex) is used to treat Parkinsons and RLS but has been proven to be very effective in preventing progesterone gyno. Some people (like rado) have no negative sides from it. Others (like me) are incredible sensitive to it and go thru hell to get to recommended gyno prevention doeses (by bro scientists) of .50mg ed. Google it, you'll find plenty of info on it.

[Chadd77]

I just did some reading on it and I think I'll just keep my deca dose real low and stop if I see any signs of gyno. Anything that "may" cause insomnia will most likely keep me up for a month. lol