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  • #16
    Originally posted by A$AP View Post
    Bouncer how old were you when you started using and decided to never come off?
    Shit man, I been on and off shit for so long I cant remember, maybe 12 years old? Kidding.

    I ran test for like 2-3 years straight when I was like 22-23, it became the norm, the feeling of being on, the physical advantages etc.. So when I came off it was a real shocker. I cycled on and off for years after that before realizing cycling is just a mental and physical fuck and it waste a lot of time IMO.

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    • #17
      Trt doses in the states is 200mg a week correct ? Sux ass over here it's 250mg every three weeks.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by A$AP View Post
        I would love to get on test and never come off but I don't want to run into any health issues down the road
        I think you answered your own question.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by redback View Post
          Trt doses in the states is 200mg a week correct ? Sux ass over here it's 250mg every three weeks.
          Think it depends on the doc too. My pops started on TRT 100mg a week after being on androgel for like 2 years. He said he can't remember how much he's at now-his doc makes him come in once a week so they can administer it. Talk about a pain in the ass, I'd take my records and get a new one for sure...But they did up his dose some, and when he kept begging for more he was told "We can't have you looking like Arnold".lol

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
            I think you answered your own question.
            Ok so what if I just stay on trt dose and never blast until I'm older wouldn't that be better

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            • #21
              Originally posted by redback View Post
              Trt doses in the states is 200mg a week correct ? Sux ass over here it's 250mg every three weeks.
              I don't think they go by mg's thinks docs here usually go by your number and how you feel

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              • #22
                I'm seriously debating on jumping on trt I will prolly not blast at all just stay on a low dose of test but I'm going to discuss it with my doc tomorrow

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                • #23
                  Bump. Doc put me on 500iu of hcg e3d after six weeks of that hcg raised my total test to 540 it was originally 420 it raised my free test to 12.1 from 11.2. Now my doc wants me to take 500iu of hcg and clomid 25 mg EOD for six weeks and see where this puts me...

                  At this point I'm getting impatient but I'm going to stick it out for another six weeks

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by redback View Post
                    Trt doses in the states is 200mg a week correct ? Sux ass over here it's 250mg every three weeks.
                    my doc goes by your test numbers and adjust dose from there. he told me most need 150mgs to be in the upper limit.
                    funny as he scripted me 150 per week,lol I take 300 most of the time,lol

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by A$AP View Post
                      Bump. Doc put me on 500iu of hcg e3d after six weeks of that hcg raised my total test to 540 it was originally 420 it raised my free test to 12.1 from 11.2. Now my doc wants me to take 500iu of hcg and clomid 25 mg EOD for six weeks and see where this puts me...

                      At this point I'm getting impatient but I'm going to stick it out for another six weeks
                      hes tryng to see if he can get your natural production going again. I like his dosing so he is not a retard like most reg docs.

                      your 22 when you are 44 things will change in you life and how you think. right now you are invincible like I was and everyone else but the older you get the wiser you get and you will think about long term health at some point.

                      going on TRT can seriously decrease your chances of having kids again but don't mean you can't thats for sure. but the test also puts stress on many other things important shit that keeps you healthy. at 22 I would do cycle and and deal with it.

                      saying that last time I came off a year or so ago I fely like complete shit. felt like nothing before and I have cycled for ever but that last time i could tell i was fucked and decided to never come off. so I went at got a HRT doc. IMO only way to do it, it sucks $70 a month no matter what and that don't include anything other than his fee. BUT I am 44 years old your 22 I think you can cycle and 540 is not a low low number. you just got used to super human shit on tren.

                      if you do cycle again I would do test only with 500ius every week of HCG then run PCT like you posted before thats perfect.

                      if you decide on TRT then run 150mgs per week or better yet get a real HRT doc not a reg doc. there is huge difference in knowledge
                      just remember if you go on for ever you better treat your body like a temple as it is gonna get stressed the fuck out anyways no drinking eatting crap ect do you wanna do that forever?

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                      • #26
                        I'm seeing a hrt doc he's saying if what we're doing now doesn't work then he's going to put me on trt most likely start out at 100mg for six weeks do bw and adjust from there.

                        I couldn't agree with you more about being to young to go on test. I actually just turned 23 not that that makes a difference lol. As for kids I have two and I'm married so I've pretty much decided two is enough my kids are great love them more than anything. But two is plenty

                        If I was to go on I would not blast anything I would stay on my trt protocol. When my test came back 540 it was three weeks after pct. If what we're doing doesn't work then I'll gladly go on test because low levels are just as dangerous as super high levels. Hopefully the hcg and clomid works

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by A$AP View Post
                          I'm seeing a hrt doc he's saying if what we're doing now doesn't work then he's going to put me on trt most likely start out at 100mg for six weeks do bw and adjust from there.

                          I couldn't agree with you more about being to young to go on test. I actually just turned 23 not that that makes a difference lol. As for kids I have two and I'm married so I've pretty much decided two is enough my kids are great love them more than anything. But two is plenty

                          If I was to go on I would not blast anything I would stay on my trt protocol. When my test came back 540 it was three weeks after pct. If what we're doing doesn't work then I'll gladly go on test because low levels are just as dangerous as super high levels. Hopefully the hcg and clomid works
                          Btw don't listen to bouncer. He never gets blood work. In 10 years time he's gonna have clogged arteries and high iron. He's probably gonna die from a heart attack by 50.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by A$AP View Post
                            I'm seeing a hrt doc he's saying if what we're doing now doesn't work then he's going to put me on trt most likely start out at 100mg for six weeks do bw and adjust from there.

                            I couldn't agree with you more about being to young to go on test. I actually just turned 23 not that that makes a difference lol. As for kids I have two and I'm married so I've pretty much decided two is enough my kids are great love them more than anything. But two is plenty

                            If I was to go on I would not blast anything I would stay on my trt protocol. When my test came back 540 it was three weeks after pct. If what we're doing doesn't work then I'll gladly go on test because low levels are just as dangerous as super high levels. Hopefully the hcg and clomid works
                            yes actually low test is worse than high test. health wise.

                            3 weeks after pct and 540 I bet it would of got higher but that is just me guessing of coarse i have no clue whats going on inside your body.

                            curious to see what the hog and other PCT stuff does to the numbers. I just wish you would of wait a lil longer to check test levels

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                              yes actually low test is worse than high test. health wise.

                              3 weeks after pct and 540 I bet it would of got higher but that is just me guessing of coarse i have no clue whats going on inside your body.

                              curious to see what the hog and other PCT stuff does to the numbers. I just wish you would of wait a lil longer to check test levels

                              Me to I did not do my homework before running this cycle and I'm pay in for it dearly. I should have waited longer to do blood work but at that point and time I didn't know any better. I still have five more weeks left before I have to get more blood work done.

                              To be honest I really don't care what my numbers are besides health reasons I just care about how I feel.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by A$AP View Post
                                Me to I did not do my homework before running this cycle and I'm pay in for it dearly. I should have waited longer to do blood work but at that point and time I didn't know any better. I still have five more weeks left before I have to get more blood work done.

                                To be honest I really don't care what my numbers are besides health reasons I just care about how I feel.
                                ya no shit if numbers are high and you don't feel right that would suck. keep this post updated and PM me if I miss it I am interested in how this plays out.

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