Bouncers MK-677 (Ibutamoren) Log

[Bouncer]

That's exactly rockets point though gods son. You can't have high levels of HGH with low levels of igf. If your igf levels are not increased by HGH yet your serum gh levels are its fake gh.

[StanG]

I think the thing is this- does it raise GH and IGF- yes.
Does it do so to any degree that would change body composition at all? THATS the big ?

[Bouncer]

That's the thing though Stan. All the "studies" report numbers like 66% increase after 7 days etc.. I'm just not sure I buy it. That's a drastic increase yet it feels nothing at all like being on gh.

[TrapsBrah]

My beard is much fuller and I'm noticing my hair and nails are growing at a faster rate as well. So far I'm just over 3 weeks in. Appetite is the same. Sleep is interesting I tend to oversleep on this stuff and that makes me feel even more tired and lethargic. I set my alarm and I feel great on less sleep 4-6 hours and I feel fully refreshed. Also I've had several nightmares on this stuff and have woken up terrified and all sweated up.

[Bouncer]

Conclusion

To put it simply.. it's crap.

The goal of this log was a little different then other Mk-677 logs, It was to compare it to real HGH. As someone who has now had experience with both, I can tell you MK-677 is absolutely nothing like real HGH.

All I got from Mk-677 was the feeling of a constantly bloated stomach and sensitive nips. Real HGH does neither of these things at normal healthy doses.

It is my opinion based on my experience that MK-677 is worthless for bodybuilding purposes. Far better results can be had from good old fashioned diet, training, and AAS.

Happy to be done with this crap.

It is also my opinion that anyone who gives this junk good reviews or says how great it is in their logs is either placebo effect or being paid off.

Honest Review Over!

[blm]

...or you got a bad product.

I feel the same way about ghrp. But there are enough people out there with completely opposite opinions and results. Maybe my product was shit or I just don't respond like others.

[Bouncer]

...or you got a bad product.

I feel the same way about ghrp. But there are enough people out there with completely opposite opinions and results. Maybe my product was shit or I just don't respond like others.

that's pretty doubtful. I got it from the main site that people recommend and constantly give great reviews.

GHRP is also crap.

You have to remember my level of expectation having used real deal HGH is much higher then some kid who gaines a pound and thinks the results are amazing. this shit doesn't come close to the real deal.

people spend money and time on a product and they want desperately for it to work. placebo effect is a funny thing.

[blm]

Interesting. You raved about ghrp at one point too.

[Bouncer]

Interesting. You raved about ghrp at one point too.

And I later went back and concluded that I was so exited for it to work and had convinced myself it was amazing even though it wasn't. I was younger and easily persuaded by BS. I'm able to be subjective and real now that I'm older and wiser. ;)

[blm]

I feel that way about all the peptides. I'm sure there are legit ones out there but the effects are so minimal that it seems like such a waste of money and effort.

Low dose gear, diet and training seem far superior.

[StanG]

In my opinion the most you can expect from all of these GH peptide stacks is something equal to at most an anti aging dose of GH (ie 2iu's/day).
Most of the time using peptides involves a hell of a lot of work and pinning (except with mk of course) all to get the minimal GH effects you get. Is it worth it? Well that's up to the individual. If you cant get real GH it may be worth it to you. Only the user can say.
I personally like Mod GRF 1-29 stacked with Ipamorelin. I like it a lot in fact. I get good mood enhancement, hair nails and skin improvement, slight increase in fat burning. My issue with the stack is after 8 months or so I just was so damn tired of pinning 3x/day every damn day. Its too much.

[Bouncer]

UPDATE

I've decided to give it another go. Instead of starting at the 25mg dose of before, I'm going with 15mg. The goal is to try and eliminate the sides so i can run it without having to go off every few days to prevent gyno. Giving it one more fair chance so I can say I have given it every chance possible. I want to evaluate how it works while staying on it consistently.

[StanG]

In order to offset the bloat I have read that low dose daily aspirin therapy works to do this. It has to do with aspirins effects on vasopressin, or ADH (anti diuretic hormone). 82 mg of enteric aspirin per day is what is being used in one persons log whom I trust and according to him it has helped with his bloating issue. May be worth a shot.
I think you made a very important distinction in your initial conclusion re mk677; you said it is useless for bodybuilding purposes. I think the most you can hope for with these peptides is an effect equal to a trt dose of gh. For bodybuilding purposes we need to take way more than the 2iu/day dose of gh that is equal to a trt dose. I just dont think you can achieve the supra-physiological doses used in bodybuilding with these peptides. I think you could possibly get a good anti aging effect on a stack of say mk677 and a cjc1295 w/dac combination. This is what the guy I referred to above is running and it makes a lot of sense to me. Plus as he has said in his log on the combo it is nice as he is only pinning every 3 days. That's pretty sweet compared to the amount of pinning most peptide stack require. Most of the time if stacking a GHRP & a GHRH you have to pin like2-3/day. Like I said in my earlier post- that just gets ridiculous in my opinion.
Anyway I am looking forward to you revisiting this compound as I am strongly thinking about using it with a cjc w/dac so I am looking forward to your thoughts this time around.

[Swolenutz1985]

Ahhhhh good ole high back when I felt like a pin cushion lol

[MattG]

I agree mk-677 isnt a miracle by any means...but let me say this-i stopped taking it and lost weight and size. After a month or so off (really cant remember, 4+ weeks) i decided to try it again since the company i use (superior peptides) gave me a %50 coupon. After being back on it for 3 weeks at 25mg a day, i put 8 lbs on. Look better, fuller...i am now over 190lbs and that was the only thing i changed in my regimine besides stopping my masteron. So, for me, it does do something. Nothing amazing, but enough for me to justify spending the money on it.