Bouncers MK-677 (Ibutamoren) Log

[Bouncer]

I agree mk-677 isnt a miracle by any means...but let me say this-i stopped taking it and lost weight and size. After a month or so off (really cant remember, 4+ weeks) i decided to try it again since the company i use (superior peptides) gave me a %50 coupon. After being back on it for 3 weeks at 25mg a day, i put 8 lbs on. Look better, fuller...i am now over 190lbs and that was the only thing i changed in my regimine besides stopping my masteron. So, for me, it does do something. Nothing amazing, but enough for me to justify spending the money on it.

See that's the thing though brother, I was comparing it to real GH and the effects and side effects were so different that I concluded it doesn't work like GH at all. You don't really jump 8lbs in the first few weeks of real GH use. It is my belief that this stuff is completely different from real GH and works in a different way.

This time around I wont be comparing it to GH as much as I will be evaluating it as it's own compound. Been on a week now at 15mgs per day and so far so good with side effects. I hope to be able to run it for a solid 2 months without coming off. Last time I had to come off every 5 days or so to avoid sides.

[MattG]

Yeah, there's no way for me to compare it to real hgh, as i have never used it due to the hefty price...well, whatever's in this mk677 does do something for me anyways. Shit's probably giving me cancer for all i know.lol

[Bouncer]

UPDATE

Been back on now 8 days. Starting to notice that feeling of well being again. I got it from mk-677 when I first started before and I'm getting it again. It's the only thing so far that I can compare to HGH as being very similar. It's a feeling of focus and clarity with a lack of the usual anxieties. It's a distinct feeling over just being in a good mood. The only other time I remember the feeling is from GH use. So that's a good thing.

[fafnir]

Been paying attention to this thread since your first try. I have been on MK-677 for a little over a week. I am also doing 5 on 2 off. Before that I used ipamorelin and cjc-1295 w/0 DAC 2x day for about 6 months with decent results. Just to provide more context for everyone (I have no experience with real HGH) the MK-677 gave me exactly the same results as the IPA/CJC with slightly more appetite stimulation and more water retention for the first week. Afterwards the water retention subsided. The most noticeable side effects for me were increased dreaming and my freaking vision got better literally over one night. I have noticed it every morning since. I can see the clock from far across the house where I know I definitely couldn't make out the numbers before. Weird but welcome. I switched to MK-677 for PCT and plan on cycling back on IPA/CJC after about 2 months.

[Bouncer]

Been paying attention to this thread since your first try. I have been on MK-677 for a little over a week. I am also doing 5 on 2 off. Before that I used ipamorelin and cjc-1295 w/0 DAC 2x day for about 6 months with decent results. Just to provide more context for everyone (I have no experience with real HGH) the MK-677 gave me exactly the same results as the IPA/CJC with slightly more appetite stimulation and more water retention for the first week. Afterwards the water retention subsided. The most noticeable side effects for me were increased dreaming and my freaking vision got better literally over one night. I have noticed it every morning since. I can see the clock from far across the house where I know I definitely couldn't make out the numbers before. Weird but welcome. I switched to MK-677 for PCT and plan on cycling back on IPA/CJC after about 2 months.

Good stuff bro. The more input we have on this stuff the better.

[fafnir]

Cool. I should clarify what I mean by bloating. I put on an extra 5 pounds of water the first week on MK-677. I measure my water intake so I know how much came in (I drink 8 16 ounce cups a day). I don't measure how much comes out :-)

I also take measurements at least weekly so for me my waist was suddenly 1 inch thicker in its thinnest area and unchanged at its thickest (I am 5'9 196 pounds and under 11% BF after a clean bulk cycle). Diet has a slight surplus but nowhere near enough to do that. After my two days off MK-677 my waist measurements dropped. I'll post back and let people know if it worked better than IPA/CJC for PCT. For one thing, it is cheaper since you don't need to pin, reconstitute or even refrigerate.

I have 1.5 weeks before real PCT begins so will likely do IPA/CJC-1295 WITH DAC at night along with the MK-677 on the advice of a pro I know. I will discontinue the IPA portion after two weeks but keep up the MK-677 for two months. Using 1ml as my nightly dose.

[Bouncer]

What's your dose bro? You notice any nip sensitivity?

[fafnir]

Running 1ml nightly (25mg/ml). No nip sensitivity but I have been running Anastrozol at 6.5 mg (.25 ml) EOD all the way through my cycle and PCT. I also don't think I am prone. Here was my pet rat's cycle Steroidplot - Shared cycle

[Bouncer]

UPDATE

Still no issues with the nips at the 15mg dose. Still have that feeling of well being reminiscent of my GH experience.

Still not sleeping well. It's like all my body needs is 4 hours and I am completely awake and rejuvenated.

Always thought the people talking about their skin improving on mk-677 was a bit silly but I must admit there does seem to be a nice effect going on.

I've gained a pound or 2 but I go up and down in pounds in a matter of a day so I'm not going to give credit to mk-677 just yet for that.

[fafnir]

Agree with the sleeping thing. I am a week before my real PCT begins so after a few weeks of just MK-677 I am adding in some CJC-1295 WO/DAC in preparation to hold on to the gains.

One thing I have noticed is that pumps have been consistently better that last two weeks. Last cycle the maxed out by now and were on the decline. A number of much more experienced guys I know report that same thing. I think you are exactly right that it isn't HGH but I am hoping for PCT it will show its usefulness.

One thing to note is the bloating. I watch my calories and noticed getting "fat" in the last two weeks which is impossible for me since I'm running just over maintenance. The tape dose now lie but the reading were weird. It is like the bloat is limited to the upper region. The guys I have talked to about this have noticed the exact same thing. It is almost like it bloats you upper intestines if that makes sense. Anyone else notice this?

[Bouncer]

Yes, I noted the stomach bloat thing in my first go around.

[fafnir]

Bouncer, not sure you have paid much attention to Dostinex but at really low doses it helps with prolactin issues and lets you fuck like a porn star. I am planning on running it in low doses through PCT.

There has been controversy lately because it was linked to permanent heart valve problems when taken at dosages appropriate for parkinson's but at less than 1/10th the damaging dose this apparently doesn't happen. Here is an nih.gov study about this : Long-term cabergoline therapy is not associated with valvular heart disease in patients with prolactinomas. - PubMed - NCBI

[Bouncer]

Bouncer, not sure you have paid much attention to Dostinex but at really low doses it helps with prolactin issues and lets you fuck like a porn star. I am planning on running it in low doses through PCT.

There has been controversy lately because it was linked to permanent heart valve problems when taken at dosages appropriate for parkinson's but at less than 1/10th the damaging dose this apparently doesn't happen. Here is an nih.gov study about this : Long-term cabergoline therapy is not associated with valvular heart disease in patients with prolactinomas. - PubMed - NCBI

i'm on 500mgs a week of test so the porn star thing isn't a problem.

I dont like the idea of dost because I'm already on adex to keep estro levels in check, dont want to run something else to counter prgesterone.

[Bouncer]

UPDATE

Been back on almost a month now, no gyno issues this time at the 15mg dose. I am now just starting to notice that stomach bloat thing again though. It feels like I have a stomach full of food all day which gets old fast. I can't say that I really love this stuff to be honest.

[Bouncer]

Conclusion

Gave it 2 chances and finished up the product. It is my opinion that mk-677 gives slight and noticeable effects early on (first 2 weeks) but something in your body quickly adjust and renders it ineffective after that period. My suggestion would be 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. It's not an ineffective product but it is IMO over hyped a bit.