When to do first cycle

[thorhammer]

I'm new to the forum and would appreciate others opinions.

I have lifted for around 10 years, 24 yes of age. Have stayed stagnant at 200 lbs for about 2 years.

I know first cycle should only be test

I would like to know what you guys suggest and when do you think is a good time to start?

[Bouncer]

Start anytime. You have the experience in terms of training. Test only 400-500mgs per week eat good amount of calories but avoid junk. Run 12 weeks minimum. Have adex on hand in case of gyno

[frankenstein]

Good suggestion... Cypionate would be my addition to his post.

[Bouncer]

There's no difference between enath or cyp. They act in the same way.

[frankenstein]

Cyp has a stronger effect and less side effects like swell... I think cyp is the "go to" ester for modern cycles.

[Bouncer]

Cyp has a stronger effect and less side effects like swell... I think cyp is the "go to" ester for modern cycles.

really? i go back and forth between cyp and enth and can't tell the difference. you may be right, i'd just like to read more about it before I say for sure. If you have any studies I'd like to see them. I don't say that in a smart ass way either, I'm genuinely interested. :)

[thorhammer]

I have considered cyp or enethate as my first cycle. Is any good online sources or best to get in person?

[rado]

I have considered cyp or enethate as my first cycle. Is any good online sources or best to get in person?

Don't ask for sources, you're just setting yourself up for trouble. Be careful if you get PM's of anyone soliciting.

[redback]

I doubt if anyone could tell the difference between cyp and enanth. People read into it to much.

[blm]

Agreed, my script goes back and forth between cyp and enanthate and nothing changes with how feel or my blood work.

[Bouncer]

On paper they are different in practice they are the same.

300 horse power has a better ring to it than 299 and 1/3 horse power. It's the human mind that makes it different.

Car reference, ding ding ding. :P

[BamBam179]

I've read that enethate has a half life of 10 days,so would need to pin ev every 5. Cyp is 14 so once a week would do. That's what I go by

[frankenstein]

The difference isn't so much effect in the cycle as purpose. It seems as though enanthate is for men over 40 as it has less of a "shock" on our endocrine system and emotions...

[blm]

Is there any proof of that?

[Bouncer]

LoL Frankenstein enanthate and cyp are exactly the same bro. Listen to someone who has used both many times. On paper they look slightly different but in real world use they are identical. I feel like you read something on a forum and repeat it as fact.