Bouncers Pre-Workout Dbol (Metandienone) Log

[Bouncer]

Agree rip. A more slow and steady mild effect. I'd actually be really interested in a natty doing this to see if there is any shut down of natty hormone levels at a single dose of dbol 4-5 times per week. Do a log with me bro. You can get the dbol same place I get it. $80 for over a 3 month supply (@ 25mg once per day) is definitely doable for anyone.

[lipripper]

you considering something like this yourself? just realize that dbol will shut down your natural test levels. so if your not running it with a base of test you'd probably be doing yourself more harm than good.

though, the extent that 1 dose per day on training days shuts you down probably isn't known. may not shut you down as hard as all day dosing.

Gotcha, the concept of it is something new, never heard or read anything like this with dbol. interested in the results. I don't see where a 25 mg dose once a day 3 to 5 days a week would have a real bad effect on natty test levels but again, I don't know a lot about the effects as I am one of the few here that are natty and haven't any first hand experience. It just seems like such a small dose compared to what you read about folks taking. But if the effects of stronger, more intense work outs over time would have to work in the long term to a strength increase I would imagine. I don't see where there would be any large gains but I could see where it could over time be a slow solid way to gain a little bit and not loose it.

[Bouncer]

you considering something like this yourself? just realize that dbol will shut down your natural test levels. so if your not running it with a base of test you'd probably be doing yourself more harm than good.

though, the extent that 1 dose per day on training days shuts you down probably isn't known. may not shut you down as hard as all day dosing.

[lipripper]

Hummm interesting.. looking fwd to seeing your log and thoughts on this.

[Bouncer]

gotcha, and I'm also assuming that the bad effects on the liver will be very minimal as its not a constant dose all day and there for not working as hard to filter it out. so saying 25 mgs a day the liver, it should be able handle that easily with very little side affects if any. Is this your thoughts?

yea, you would think right? 1 a day only on training days (4-5 days per week) for 90 days should be easier for the liver to handle compared to 3-5 doses per day, 7 days a week, for 45 days.

plus when I think of health issues with steroids users and bodybuilders it's never liver issues for the most part. it's always kidney issues. (Tom Prince, Don Long, Flex Wheeler, and so on). Dbol doesnt effect the kidneys so I'm not too worried about negative effect of a 17-aa drug (designed not break down in the stomach and supposedly harsh on liver). guys in the 70's ate dbol like candy and none of them had liver failure etc..

i think the dangers of 17-aa orals are overstated somewhat. i'm not saying you can mega dose them for years but I have never in my life seen major issues with normal 17-aa oral use in bodybuilders. can anyone think of any? dont even mention Munzer. Dude was killed by insanity of drug cocktails. Not a 17-aa.

just to be a little safer though, I haven't touch alcohol in months and I wont while on dbol.

[mbell4377]

13 lmao. i thought i was bad at 16-17

i used the pharma russian stuff. white tabs in blister tin packs. the pink thai 5mg stop signs were just as good.

I had the white ones with the triangle imprint, naposim, and would order from British dispensary, 1000 of the pinks for $110, such a good deal


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[lipripper]

gotcha, and I'm also assuming that the bad effects on the liver will be very minimal as its not a constant dose all day and there for not working as hard to filter it out. so saying 25 mgs a day the liver, it should be able handle that easily with very little side affects if any. Is this your thoughts?

[Bouncer]

Bouncer, so your saying your just gonna take the Dbol like a pre work out supplement just before work outs and see what results you get from it?

exactly. i have the base hormones of test and deca that stay consistent in the blood and the dbol will be used just to create a spike before training. it peaks in the blood about 2-3 hours after ingestion. the idea being if I take it a few hours before training it will be at peak level precisely when i'm hitting the weights. being a short acting oral i do not believe it NEEDS to be run in the same way that long acting injectables need to be run.

[lipripper]

Bouncer, so your saying your just gonna take the Dbol like a pre work out supplement just before work outs and see what results you get from it?

[Bouncer]

update. decided to do it. log starts in a few days when dbol arrives. woot woot. who needs a pre workout supp when you got the breakfast of champions. :D

[Bouncer]

yea agree. we already know the results of dbol throughout the day. my goal is to see how well it works by creating a spike once a day before training. will the results be 50% as good as using all day? 75%? 25%? i dont think anyone can really answer that question. i wanna see if it's in anyway comparable. if it is, maybe dbol can be used in a safer manner and give you close to the same results. hell, maybe dbol can be used for months without effecting the liver if used in this way.

[epix00]

gonna run a log when I do it and we'll see whats what. i do not believe dbol needs to be constant in blood like injectables. i believe fast acting orals can instead be used like ibuprofin for a short term effect and response.

Im not saying it wont work. I think it will work and you will get gains from the method you are talking about. Im just saying that you also can get added benefits from taking it consistently. I dont doubt you will see gains, and for the purpose you want to run it based on your other thread I think it will work well the way you are going to do it for the results and look that you want.

[Bouncer]

gonna run a log when I do it and we'll see whats what. i do not believe dbol needs to be constant in blood like injectables. i believe fast acting orals can instead be used like ibuprofin for a short term effect and response.

[epix00]

Nah test and deca are consistent to keep base hormone levels. I feel like you guys dont understand how dbol actually works. It's a 2 hour peak with 4 hour half life depending. It's not a drug that works on consistent hormone level. Even spaced out through the day. Unless your taking it in middle of night it is completely gone by morning. It's more like gh in the sense that it works by spiking. Not consistent blood level.

a 4 hour half life just means half of it will be gone by 4 hours. at 8 hours half of that would be gone (which means 25% would still be present) You still would have dbol present throughout the entire night. Dbol still builds up like other AAS with longer half lives, it just needs to be taken more frequently so it keeps levels elevated in your system at all times if you space out your dosages.

edit: yes you are right that the levels do not stay as constant as other AAS, and it does peak and trough depending on the time of day and when you are taking it. But to say that it would not constantly be in your system is incorrect if taken daily and spaced out. If taken just on training days you wont have those benefits. You still will make gains through it spiking and increasing your ability to train harder, but its benefits will not be the same. If necessary I can show you a graph based on a half life calculator.

[Mr I]

Fair enough chief

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