gotcha, and I'm also assuming that the bad effects on the liver will be very minimal as its not a constant dose all day and there for not working as hard to filter it out. so saying 25 mgs a day the liver, it should be able handle that easily with very little side affects if any. Is this your thoughts?
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Originally posted by Bouncer View Post13 lmao. i thought i was bad at 16-17
i used the pharma russian stuff. white tabs in blister tin packs. the pink thai 5mg stop signs were just as good.
I had the white ones with the triangle imprint, naposim, and would order from British dispensary, 1000 of the pinks for $110, such a good deal
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yea, you would think right? 1 a day only on training days (4-5 days per week) for 90 days should be easier for the liver to handle compared to 3-5 doses per day, 7 days a week, for 45 days.Originally posted by lipripper View Postgotcha, and I'm also assuming that the bad effects on the liver will be very minimal as its not a constant dose all day and there for not working as hard to filter it out. so saying 25 mgs a day the liver, it should be able handle that easily with very little side affects if any. Is this your thoughts?
plus when I think of health issues with steroids users and bodybuilders it's never liver issues for the most part. it's always kidney issues. (Tom Prince, Don Long, Flex Wheeler, and so on). Dbol doesnt effect the kidneys so I'm not too worried about negative effect of a 17-aa drug (designed not break down in the stomach and supposedly harsh on liver). guys in the 70's ate dbol like candy and none of them had liver failure etc..
i think the dangers of 17-aa orals are overstated somewhat. i'm not saying you can mega dose them for years but I have never in my life seen major issues with normal 17-aa oral use in bodybuilders. can anyone think of any? dont even mention Munzer. Dude was killed by insanity of drug cocktails. Not a 17-aa.
just to be a little safer though, I haven't touch alcohol in months and I wont while on dbol.
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you considering something like this yourself? just realize that dbol will shut down your natural test levels. so if your not running it with a base of test you'd probably be doing yourself more harm than good.
though, the extent that 1 dose per day on training days shuts you down probably isn't known. may not shut you down as hard as all day dosing.
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Gotcha, the concept of it is something new, never heard or read anything like this with dbol. interested in the results. I don't see where a 25 mg dose once a day 3 to 5 days a week would have a real bad effect on natty test levels but again, I don't know a lot about the effects as I am one of the few here that are natty and haven't any first hand experience. It just seems like such a small dose compared to what you read about folks taking. But if the effects of stronger, more intense work outs over time would have to work in the long term to a strength increase I would imagine. I don't see where there would be any large gains but I could see where it could over time be a slow solid way to gain a little bit and not loose it.Originally posted by Bouncer View Postyou considering something like this yourself? just realize that dbol will shut down your natural test levels. so if your not running it with a base of test you'd probably be doing yourself more harm than good.
though, the extent that 1 dose per day on training days shuts you down probably isn't known. may not shut you down as hard as all day dosing.
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Agree rip. A more slow and steady mild effect. I'd actually be really interested in a natty doing this to see if there is any shut down of natty hormone levels at a single dose of dbol 4-5 times per week. Do a log with me bro. You can get the dbol same place I get it. $80 for over a 3 month supply (@ 25mg once per day) is definitely doable for anyone.
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This is not a good idea. If it does shut him down he will now need to pct and with such low doses of dbol spaced out getting shut down from that is not worth it at all. I don't think this is a good recommendation at all.Originally posted by Bouncer View PostAgree rip. A more slow and steady mild effect. I'd actually be really interested in a natty doing this to see if there is any shut down of natty hormone levels at a single dose of dbol 4-5 times per week. Do a log with me bro. You can get the dbol same place I get it. $80 for over a 3 month supply (@ 25mg once per day) is definitely doable for anyone.
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At his age if it does shut him down he simply goes to doc and says "listen my sex drive is low, I'm tired all the time, and I'm holding more bodyfat despite exercise and diet." He'll be on trt in an instant. Even test cream would probably put him at higher test levels than his current natty 50 year old test levels.Originally posted by epix00 View PostThis is not a good idea. If it does shut him down he will now need to pct and with such low doses of dbol spaced out getting shut down from that is not worth it at all. I don't think this is a good recommendation at all.
Year from now he's on trt and dbol and bigger than us due too life long natty turning to hormona. :D
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I mean if he wants to go on TRT than thats a good way to do it. However rule number 1 on steroid forums is to stop people from doing oral only cycles. So when you are suggesting a partial oral steroid cycle it just sounds like a bad idea unless the intention is to shut yourself down and not make real gains.Originally posted by Bouncer View PostAt his age if it does shut him down he simply goes to doc and says "listen my sex drive is low, I'm tired all the time, and I'm holding more bodyfat despite exercise and diet." He'll be on trt in an instant. Even test cream would probably put him at higher test levels than his current natty 50 year old test levels.
Year from now he's on trt and dbol and bigger than us due too life long natty turning to hormona. :D
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I agree to a point. Standard oral cycle is a no no. But this is a slightly different situation that I don't think we have any real data or info on. The effect of pre training dbol on juiced and natty people. We understand normal dosing but not so much this specifically.
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Ill be honest, Im interested in what the results would be from a curiousity and scientific standpoint. I just think its a risk to someone who is doing it. I also think its a recipe for even less gains than someone doing a standard oral cycle, because if it does shut you down now you are replacing your test with even less of a different compound. which means less gains.Originally posted by Bouncer View PostI agree to a point. Standard oral cycle is a no no. But this is a slightly different situation that I don't think we have any real data or info on. The effect of pre training dbol on juiced and natty people. We understand normal dosing but not so much this specifically.
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Ill be honest, Im interested in what the results would be from a curiousity and scientific standpoint. I just think its a risk to someone who is doing it. I also think its a recipe for even less gains than someone doing a standard oral cycle, because if it does shut you down now you are replacing your test with even less of a different compound. which means less gains. If someone is going to experiment with compounds they should do it right. Now if you took it on yourself to try this, thats one thing, but to recommend it to someone else is another. If lip wants to try it though, id be interested in the results though lol.Originally posted by Bouncer View PostI agree to a point. Standard oral cycle is a no no. But this is a slightly different situation that I don't think we have any real data or info on. The effect of pre training dbol on juiced and natty people. We understand normal dosing but not so much this specifically.
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