My Biggest Cycle Ever. (Test, Deca, Dbol, Anadrol)

[Bouncer]

It won't crash estro levels anymore than adex though correct?

[epix00]

Longer half life, not as easy to control or find the sweet spot. some people get sides from it (like me, that don't get it from adex) . It's def good option though. try it out and report back.

[Androman]

So aromasin doesn't lower igf like adex and it lowers shbg which will make test work better. What's the down side to it compared to adex? Seems like it's better in every way.

The only downside would be crashing your estrogen. Same down side for arimidex. But it doesn't have a rebound effect and it doesn't destroy your cholesterol like arimidex does


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[Bouncer]

So aromasin doesn't lower igf like adex and it lowers shbg which will make test work better. What's the down side to it compared to adex? Seems like it's better in every way.

[epix00]

after this cut cycle im running im running a very similar bulk cycle to this. just replacing tren with the anavar. I am also going to be running a much larger amount of deca. So i definitely stocked up on caber. At your low deca amount if you havent needed anything for progesterone you are probably fine. I honestly wouldnt worry about the serm with 25mg of anadrol, but if you are going to raise it to 50mg it might be worth considering.

[Androman]

Deca is good for my joints but bad for my face lol. If you want to stop the gyno from anadrol from happening you'll need a serm also.. Weird how it's a DHT yet can cause gyno and lot of bloat. Dbol being a test derivative you cover its problems along with the test with the aromasin.


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[Bouncer]

Ahh ok. Nah androman no anti progesterone. Been on deca for months. At current dose there is no sides. I'm hoping low dose anadrol means I won't get any sides from it.

[Androman]

You're gonna take dianabol which is one of the most infamous steroids for heavy aromatization, along with some deca which is known to cause progesterone bloat, and anadrol which causes bloat and gyno through a weird mechanism.


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[epix00]

So adex and letro work by the same mechanism, but what happens when you stop taking adex or letro is that whatever it had binded gets released and the estro re-enters into circulation so to speak. With aromasin once it binds it, that specific enzyme can never work again, but if you stop taking the aromasin new ones can be formed.

[Androman]

what was epix talking about suicidal?

if i need .5mgs ed adex to control sides what dose is that comparable to with aromasin?

Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor, it blocks the aromatase enzyme which is responsible for test being converted into estrogen. Aromasin is a suicidal AI because there is no rebound effect, what it does is irreversible. This doesn't mean its going to kill your estrogen it'll just lower it.

Bro at .5mg eod Is a lot to me. If you want to swap to aromasin do 12.5mg MWF. I think that's plenty. If you're real sensitive to estrogen then do 12.5mg EOD. Also you're taking Dbol/Anadrol. Anadrol works very funky with estrogen meaning an AI isn't going to help with the type of gyno anadrol can cause. You'll need a serm like Nolvadex works for this. Also do you at least have caber on hand just in case since you're running the long acting nandrolone? That'd be very important. Even if it's a low dose.


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[Bouncer]

So once you use aromasin you will permanently disable aromatise? I don't get it. Why do you have to keep using it then? I'm having trouble with the terminology. "Permanently disables" means to me aromatizion will never occur again.

[epix00]

" Aromasin is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor (AI), meaning it permanently disables the aromatase enzyme once it binds to it. In plain English, Aromasin will prevent the currently bound enzymes from rebounding, which is what separates this drug from letrozole or arimidex. When you use other AI’s, they temporarily stop estrogen from aromatizing, but when you stop taking them those same enzymes can rebound causing what is known as ‘estrogen rebound’. This explains why some anabolic steroid users experience gynecomastia (bitch tits) after cycle when using other AI’s. Studies on breast cancer patients have shown aromasin reduced estrogen levels up to 85%. "

[Bouncer]

what was epix talking about suicidal?

if i need .5mgs ed adex to control sides what dose is that comparable to with aromasin?

[Androman]

I really like your cycle I ran the same oral mix for my last blast. Test @ 1050, tren E @ 500, deca @ 150, Drol/Dbol both 50/50mg ED. I peaked at 230lbs I was 218lb pre-blast, and my bench went over a nice 110lbs.


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[Androman]

interesting. if i switch from adex to aromasin is there any potential estro issue with is raising during transition process?

does aromasin completly kill estro?

I don't see why it would and no, just like with everything else you'll need to find your sweet spot. Personally I would start at 12.5mg MWF, for 500mg test.


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