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My Biggest Cycle Ever. (Test, Deca, Dbol, Anadrol)

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  • epix00
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    No issues with it being raised as long as you start running the aromasin right away. Yes too much can completely kill estro

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  • Bouncer
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    interesting. if i switch from adex to aromasin is there any potential estro issue with is raising during transition process?

    does aromasin completly kill estro?

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  • epix00
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    There are definitely merits to aromasin Andro. I respond well to adex and aromasin gives me the sides you get from adex. I guess each individual is different.

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  • Androman
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    Was wrong about increasing IGF1 levels. However IGF1 levels are unaffected when running aromasin where as on arimidex they are decreased by only a small percentage not sure exactly how much.


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  • Androman
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    http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/...jc.2003-031279

    Scroll down to Study 1: Dose finding and read the paragraph.


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  • Androman
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    Another thing there is no rebound effect from aromasin that you get from adex.


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  • Androman
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    My Biggest Cycle Ever. (Test, Deca, Dbol, Anadrol)

    Im trying to copy and paste it but it doesn't come out right.
    Check it out here

    For SHBG

    http://www.steroidology.com/forum/an...-aromasin.html

    I'll try to find the igf 1 level increase

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  • Bouncer
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    androman you got any articles on aromasin lowering shbg and raising igf? id like to read more on it. got me interested.

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  • Androman
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    To each their own brother but I don't mean killing my estro. I don't respond well to arimidex, even at .25mg eod I get stiff joints and insomnia from it. Aromasin at half a tab eod gets unwanted bloat off me. Sure a little estrogen is good, helps with growth and gives your muscle that nice full look but too much masks your gains and you have the face of a fat boy or at least I do. Also it doesn't wreck havoc like adex does on cholesterol and also been proven to lower shbg and increase igf1.


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  • Bouncer
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    Yea, I mean if I wanted to kill estro I'd use letro. I want some estro as it helps with gains and general health. Trick is keeping it low enough to control sides but high enough to get benefit.

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  • epix00
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    See I don't want to be "dry as a bone". The full pumped lubed up joints. I feel like aromasin is too strong for what i want.
    Yeah aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. I have steered away from it as well as a lil estro is a good thing for me.

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  • Bouncer
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    See I don't want to be "dry as a bone". I want the full pumped lubed up joints feeling. I feel like aromasin is too strong for what i want. I like the fact adex is a "weaker" aromatise inhibitor.

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  • Androman
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    Nice I like your cycle. Only thing id change is aromasin for the AI, superior to arimidex IMO. I'm actually on 750mg Cyp with 250mg Deca for joint support, dry as a bone. No caber necessary. Love me some drol lol.


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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by redback View Post
    I like the cycle. You should blow up for sure. I'm a bit more greedy with the doses though. I would double the deca and 50mg each for the drol and dbol.
    Originally posted by epix00 View Post
    Shit I would double the test too if it was me. But compared to the low doses that Bouncer has been doing, this should provide great gains. Im excited to see results on this.
    Few reasons for the doses.

    If I increase the deca by even 50mgs nips puff up and gyno slowly develops. I really don't want to add in yet 1 more drug in the form of an anti progestin so the deca is at at the highest dose my body will deal with before giving me sides. Deca at 200mgs is more about making my joints feel 15 years younger and allowing me to train heavy without a bunch of pain. It's a miracle drug for joints.

    Orals I will consider possably bumping to 50mg each before I'm done with them but you know me.. I like to see what I can achieve on low doses first.

    Test will increase in the future as the sides are so easy to control. i'm just saving the higher doses until I absolutly need them. plus by adding in the Adrol which has been proven to lower SHBG by almost 50% there should be a significant increase in the amount of test made available for the purpose we want it. so aside from anadrols own benefits it should also allow the test im already using to be far more effective. thats the hope.

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  • rado
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Gonna run this through September and then drop the orals.

    As we talked about yesterday, there is a potential synergy effect with dbol and anadrol that most people would never consider because a bro science rule that "you should never combine the 2". Well I'm here to test the theory and gauge the sides.

    Test E @ 500mgs Per Week
    Deca @ 200mgs Per Week (Joint Support)
    Dbol @ 25mgs Per Day
    Anadrol @ 25mgs Per Day
    Adex @ .50mgs Per Day

    Total per week including orals = 1050mgs
    This cycle will make you gain for sure, both mass and water.

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