Epix's way too big deca/tren dick cycle

[Androman]

hold on here. chiropractors can legally prescribe test? i have never heard that in my life. how is this possible? chiropractors do not have Dr license as far as i'm aware.

Oh thank you for that. I didn't mean the Chiropractors, I mean the sports medicine specialist. Appreciate you calling me out on that misinformation for me. Crazy how one little mix up can bring a whole world of trouble & confusion.


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[epix00]

Im in florida too Andro. And yes...my natty levels are trashed. im in the low 100's

[Bouncer]

hold on here. chiropractors can legally prescribe test? i have never heard that in my life. how is this possible? chiropractors do not have Dr license as far as i'm aware.

[Androman]

Epix's way too big deca/tren dick cycle

Jesus 200mg e10d? That puts you in 1600ng/dl usually trt is 100-150, 200 is the high end so your natty levels must be really in the dirt. At least your doctors don't frown upon AAS use. Those types of docs are a minority, super rare. Surprised they're not in sports medicine or damn chiropractor lol. Here in Florida chiropractors will write you AAS scripts like nothing as long as you have money like that. Ideal for IFBB pros or serious bb'rs in general. When are you gonna run this big cycle tho since you're finishing up your EQ and have to take out bloods in a couple weeks? That undecylenate ester lingers like a motherfucker lol. And milk thistle, any liver protectant that isn't TUDCA is garbage. I wrote an article on how effective tudca is on iSarms, because I myself experienced liver problems I'm surprised he hasn't told you anything about that. As long as you got everything on lockdown. You sound like you should be involved in the bodybuilding industry with all those doctors keeping an eye on you. That's great tho. I only stick to one doc lol. Self prescribed trt is best for me, I get blood work done pre during and post and after I do my blast I see what's out of whack and bring it back to range with correct supplementation and proper nutrition, and get another bloodwork done about a month to a month and a half and see where my levels are at if its okay for another blast. Haven't had a problem doing it this way, usually things go out of whack when I run harsher compounds and unnecessary dosages for my body.


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[epix00]

milk thistle doesnt do shit anyway. just helps peoples minds.

agreed.

[Bouncer]

milk thistle doesnt do shit anyway. just helps peoples minds.

[epix00]

So to address some of the things I do to safeguard against heavy AAS usage the first thing I will mention is that I am always on. I am prescribed HRT by a dr. who has me come in to the office for injections. I am prescribed 200 mgs every 10 days. Every 6 months he sends me in for full lab work to check on every system and issue that AAS can cause. I plan my blasts around this lab work as I can't have elevated test levels to the extreme on my lab work. He knows I use AAS in addition to what he gives me, but I can't have those kind of levels on my labs or he has to lower my dosage to get me in the "medically acceptable range". BTW, this Dr. is a urologist and not an endocrinologist, so he takes all the extras steps like checking my prostate on a regular basis as well.

Now I also see my Primary Care Physician regularly, I see them especially when I am on blasts. I am very honest with this dr. as they have been treating me for a decade. He knows my extensive AAS use and history and likes to keep me safe. This is the dr that prescribes me my BP medication as needed. He runs labs while Im on cycle and off cycle and makes sure that nothing gets to extreme and that everything returns to normal ranges when off cycle.

Now not only do I have these 2 doctors but I also see a gastroenterologist on a regular basis. The reason I do is because of a totally unrelated issue that isn't related or interfering with my AAS use. He checks on my liver on a regular basis because of this and I am not just talking about reviewing my blood work, he has me doing ultrasounds once a year as well.

So between these 3 doctors I am pretty well supervised. They will prescribe me any medication as needed to keep me safe. They tend to not like when I take certain support supplements like milk thistle for example as my GI doctor doesnt like how herbs cant regulate potency and he cant control prescribed medication interactions with things like this.

So right now my health is in excellent standing, my levels are all returning to normal ranges off AAS. Certain things are definitely elevated while on, but not to levels where they dont return or to levels that are red flags from my doctors. I have blood work scheduled with my PCP for a couple weeks from now right as I am finishing up the blast that I am on. So that will be before I start this huge blast, and I will make sure Im good to go before starting.

I also am currently running EQ right now and I do take precautions like donating blood on a regular basis. My gym is right next to a movie theater and every weekend they offer free movie tickets for donating blood in the big buses right at my gym.

I hope this addresses most concerns. If I am missing anything ask any questions and I will answer them. Thanks guys.

[Androman]

You are bringing up all the things I would ask someone who was running a cycle like this too. I'm on my phone right now so I'll post all about the safety procedures I take as soon as I get to my comp in the morning. I'm glad you are asking though so anyone who reads this will realize how much stuff goes into cycle support for a blast like this besides just the AAS.

Just be safe brother, as long as you know what you're doing.


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[epix00]

You are bringing up all the things I would ask someone who was running a cycle like this too. I'm on my phone right now so I'll post all about the safety procedures I take as soon as I get to my comp in the morning. I'm glad you are asking though so anyone who reads this will realize how much stuff goes into cycle support for a blast like this besides just the AAS.

[Androman]

Ok what about your overall health? You know; the internal side effects that you don't see. You get bloodwork done? HDL, LDL, hematocrit/hemoglobin, LH/FSH, liver enzymes, you worried about any of that? What do you take for prostate? What do you take for on-cycle support? Do you donate blood? Hope so cuz no one likes thick yogurt blood. You're also taking arimidex, I actually mentioned its effects on lipids with bouncer on his thread I think, not to mention Dbol's and tren's effect on it as well. Do you cycle or just blast and cruise? You're gonna be on these dosages for four months, that's quite a while on heavy and suppressive gear. How's your diet like? Im new to the forum so I don't know you as much as others do but id like to get to know, so what're your stats, you got to be huge. Nonetheless bro be safe and grow.


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[epix00]

Competing against myself to be the biggest baddest version of me I can br. Worth more than a trophy if you ask me. I don't think it's going to be a waste, it's more a question of diminishing returns versus sides. If the sides become overwhelming and I can't adequately combat them then yes it's too much. I'd rather max out receptors and have a little unused vs not max out receptors and have room for more growth. I don't think 3 grams will max out anything though based upon what I have seen with my cycle history. If I'm not responding in a fashion correlated to the extra AAS compared to my past gains then I will reduce the amount being ran. I'm not going to continue to just run excessive amounts if nothing is happening...but finding out my tolerance is the goal.

[Androman]

I think OP can gain the same amount on 600mg test, 400mg Deca, 50mg TrenA ED and about 25mg dbol ED with far less sides and unnecessary excess water weight gain, being that all his product is of quality and properly dosed. Along with high caloric intake of course.

No lie he has a great stack right there. Only thing he has to watch out for is prolactin/prog but with caber on hand there should be no problem.


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[Androman]

Nah test and dbol dose won't be a waste. I do think he will have issues with the deca though.

Screw proviron, you wanna lower shbg use drol or mast. :D

Anything that converts to excess estrogen and bloat is a waste. Point of running cycle is to get as much as possible with as little sides. Ever heard of diminishing returns? But hey if that's what he wants then so be it. What it really comes down to is his diet. I personally don't think he needs that much gear... Being that what he is taking is not underdosed.


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[Mr I]

Mr. I - Those are some nice stats on that bench press at that bodyweight. what were the dosages of those compounds?

At 15 years old it was lol

Parabolon used to come in like 76.5 mg per ample or something and I think I did 2 or 3 shots a week.

Dynabolon - another 19 nor type deal they stopped making long ago. Not sure what dosages. I mentioned those two because it's similar to what your talking about in that there's a tren compound and also a deca type compound in Dynabolon.

Here's the crazy thing, the Dynabolon also had some progesterone or similar actually desolved in the oil.

In terms of Anapolon I just took one tab a day (50mg). But this was Syntex Anapolon! The original and the best. Same with the Parabolon it was pharma grade and when you cracked the ampoules it gave a pungent smell. I mean the fucker even smelt strong. So you knew when you injected it some magic would happen

[Bouncer]

You don't think most of it is going to be a waste? I think you can get away with a waaaaayy less deca test and dbol. You should consider proviron to free up more test by lowering shbg.


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Nah test and dbol dose won't be a waste. I do think he will have issues with the deca though.

Screw proviron, you wanna lower shbg use drol or mast. :D