Epix's way too big deca/tren dick cycle

[Androman]

You don't think most of it is going to be a waste? I think you can get away with a waaaaayy less deca test and dbol. You should consider proviron to free up more test by lowering shbg.


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[Androman]

generic hyges. Haven't ran them yet so I hope they are legit. If they arent I have a connect on serostim. Its just a bit pricey.

I've ran hyges last year, 4ius for 5 months made me hold onto a bit of water. It was okay. Slept never been better and I felt great mentally.


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[Androman]

Crazy cycle. Are you competing in anything? Powerlifting or bodybuilding competition or just the average gym rat looking to gain more mass? That's a lot of shit you're putting into your body, being that what you're taking is properly dosed and not underdosed.


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[epix00]

Huge cycle brother, can't wait to see how it goes. What kinda growth are you running? Generic or pharma?

generic hyges. Haven't ran them yet so I hope they are legit. If they arent I have a connect on serostim. Its just a bit pricey.

[MattG]

Huge cycle brother, can't wait to see how it goes. What kinda growth are you running? Generic or pharma?

[epix00]

Exactly lip, time for a science experiment!

[lipripper]

epix is going for it..good luck with it dude. looking fwd to seeing the results.

See..this is what you and B really wanted me to be your lab rat for..glad you have stepped up to the plate..:grin:

[chuckz28]

Perhaps wasn't clear with my competing comment. I was saying the side effect of being so mentally unstable that it wrecks relationships isn't worth it unless you're competing. If you can do this without a relationship wrecking mental side effect, or you aren't in a relationship then by all means continue. If a person knows they can't take the mental sides before they even start then what would the point be if they are going to wreck their relationship to achieve a goal? By the sounds of it you can handle it fine.

[Bouncer]

thats what I would do.

Also consider the fact that adex and caber hold back gains to a certain degree. so you can run 1200 test and 1200 deca but if you need high doses of adex and caber the result may be the same as running 800 test and 800 deca with half the amount of adex and caber. see what I'm saying? its all about finding that perfect balance between steroid ratios and also finding the highest dose you can use while keeping the ancilaries as low as possable so that they dont rob you of gaines themself.

[epix00]

You will have dick issues as your thread title implies. i know this as a fact. In my experiance if my test dosage is not double my deca dosage my sex drive drops pretty substantially and the quality of sex is not anywhere near as good. Honestly if you want to run 1200mgs of deca a week go for it but I think your test should be @ least 2 grams so that the test to deca ratio is more in favor of benefiting sex drive.

The caber should help with the deca dick which i know you dont run, but this is exactly why I started this thread. To help me think this cycle through. So maybe instead of running 1250 test 1250 deca, run the suggested max of around 800 deca and run around 1750 test. This sound a little more practical?

edit: people have been known to run deca higher than they do test with caber and can avoid the sexual dysfunction.

[Bouncer]

You will have dick issues as your thread title implies. i know this as a fact. In my experiance if my test dosage is not double my deca dosage my sex drive drops pretty substantially and the quality of sex is not anywhere near as good. Honestly if you want to run 1200mgs of deca a week go for it but I think your test should be @ least 2 grams so that the test to deca ratio is more in favor of benefiting sex drive. i would absolutly never ever balance my deca and test to a 50:50 ratio. fuck that. trust me brother. i been playing with my deca and test ratio for almost a year now. my dosages might be way lower than yours but the the ratio will yield the same result regardless of dosage. i do not believe you will stay at a 50:50 ratio for very long.

[epix00]

My main concern for you epix is the deca dose. Test you can handle but the effects of deca on the brain can be tough to deal with bro. Even @ 200mgs a week, when I added it to my cycle there was about a 2 month period where I had a sad/depressed feeling while my body adjusted to it. At that dose I fear it will cause some pretty serious case of the blues. Every single thing I have ever read has said the effects of deca top out around 600-800mgs per week.

It's a concern of mine also, because you are right about alot of people suggesting it tops out at around 800. The question I pose is how much of that is just advice that has been repeated without really being tested, and how much of it is 100 percent accurate. There is not alot of info out there on really large cycles of it. I also know people first hand who have run it much higher though and didn't suffer any harsh side effects while making amazing gains. Even so, that doesnt mean I wont have issues. that's why im prepared to cut it down if I need to. The smart route would be to start lower and build up to it, which is still a possibility that I am taking into consideration. I just want to find what my personal limits are and what I can achieve, so I am willing to push it while still remaining prepared to make changes if sides occur and not be stubborn if my body is rejecting things.

[rado]

I know when to say when, now isn't the time :D

Not even gonna give my input, just be careful nigg :)

[Bouncer]

Completely agree your point about competing. People use that as if it's some kind of better justification to get big and jacked. Why? So you can get a little plastic trophy? Who gives a fuck about that. I want to walk to the pool and have every fucken person in there say to themselves "holy fuck"! That to me is far far greater motivation. Not just doing what I do to look good for a moment on stage but to walk around in daily life just shocking the shit out of people. That's why I do it. It's a high.

My main concern for you epix is the deca dose. Test you can handle but the effects of deca on the brain can be tough to deal with bro. Even @ 200mgs a week, when I added it to my cycle there was about a 2 month period where I had a sad/depressed feeling while my body adjusted to it. At that dose I fear it will cause some pretty serious case of the blues. Every single thing I have ever read has said the effects of deca top out around 600-800mgs per week.

[epix00]

Chad- So yeah I will post pics before I start this cycle. Im finishing a cycle right now so when I'm done I will post before beginning the bulk.

Bouncer & Chuck - So my personality changes very minimally on 2 grams so I figure 3 grams wont be much different. If it affects me I will obviously lower dosages. Same goes with BP, I have a dr that prescribes me BP medications while on cycles if it raises significantly. This is why maintaining an honest relationship with your Dr. comes in handy. The adex and caber dosages might go up quite a bit during this cycle. I will definitely log everything and make it as informative as possible about what occurs. With what chuck said about only worth it if competing, I disagree. It's about reaching your goals and satisfying your desires. Whether your goal is for a trophy or your goal is to be the best or biggest version of yourself, it doesnt matter. The trophy just means you achieved your goal. Its recognition for your hard work. I don't need that, I just need to please myself by reaching those goals. It's really the same thing (unless you are talking about competing professionally, then its money involved....but there are alot of easier ways to make a lot more money than competing, so its really still just about being the best you can be)

Mr. I - Those are some nice stats on that bench press at that bodyweight. what were the dosages of those compounds?

I am slightly concerned about the sides from this kind of cycle. They should be manageable with my ancillaries though. My number 1 concern is I can kind of get lethargic at the upper end of dosages. It makes it hard for me to be motivated and get in the gym. So I have to push myself extra hard sometimes. If it gets to be too much I will tone back the dosages as well.