Epix's way too big deca/tren dick cycle

[Bouncer]

thats what I would do.

Also consider the fact that adex and caber hold back gains to a certain degree. so you can run 1200 test and 1200 deca but if you need high doses of adex and caber the result may be the same as running 800 test and 800 deca with half the amount of adex and caber. see what I'm saying? its all about finding that perfect balance between steroid ratios and also finding the highest dose you can use while keeping the ancilaries as low as possable so that they dont rob you of gaines themself.

[chuckz28]

Perhaps wasn't clear with my competing comment. I was saying the side effect of being so mentally unstable that it wrecks relationships isn't worth it unless you're competing. If you can do this without a relationship wrecking mental side effect, or you aren't in a relationship then by all means continue. If a person knows they can't take the mental sides before they even start then what would the point be if they are going to wreck their relationship to achieve a goal? By the sounds of it you can handle it fine.

[lipripper]

epix is going for it..good luck with it dude. looking fwd to seeing the results.

See..this is what you and B really wanted me to be your lab rat for..glad you have stepped up to the plate..:grin:

[epix00]

Exactly lip, time for a science experiment!

[MattG]

Huge cycle brother, can't wait to see how it goes. What kinda growth are you running? Generic or pharma?

[epix00]

Huge cycle brother, can't wait to see how it goes. What kinda growth are you running? Generic or pharma?

generic hyges. Haven't ran them yet so I hope they are legit. If they arent I have a connect on serostim. Its just a bit pricey.

[Androman]

Crazy cycle. Are you competing in anything? Powerlifting or bodybuilding competition or just the average gym rat looking to gain more mass? That's a lot of shit you're putting into your body, being that what you're taking is properly dosed and not underdosed.


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[Androman]

generic hyges. Haven't ran them yet so I hope they are legit. If they arent I have a connect on serostim. Its just a bit pricey.

I've ran hyges last year, 4ius for 5 months made me hold onto a bit of water. It was okay. Slept never been better and I felt great mentally.


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[Androman]

You don't think most of it is going to be a waste? I think you can get away with a waaaaayy less deca test and dbol. You should consider proviron to free up more test by lowering shbg.


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[Bouncer]

You don't think most of it is going to be a waste? I think you can get away with a waaaaayy less deca test and dbol. You should consider proviron to free up more test by lowering shbg.


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Nah test and dbol dose won't be a waste. I do think he will have issues with the deca though.

Screw proviron, you wanna lower shbg use drol or mast. :D

[Mr I]

Mr. I - Those are some nice stats on that bench press at that bodyweight. what were the dosages of those compounds?

At 15 years old it was lol

Parabolon used to come in like 76.5 mg per ample or something and I think I did 2 or 3 shots a week.

Dynabolon - another 19 nor type deal they stopped making long ago. Not sure what dosages. I mentioned those two because it's similar to what your talking about in that there's a tren compound and also a deca type compound in Dynabolon.

Here's the crazy thing, the Dynabolon also had some progesterone or similar actually desolved in the oil.

In terms of Anapolon I just took one tab a day (50mg). But this was Syntex Anapolon! The original and the best. Same with the Parabolon it was pharma grade and when you cracked the ampoules it gave a pungent smell. I mean the fucker even smelt strong. So you knew when you injected it some magic would happen

[Androman]

Nah test and dbol dose won't be a waste. I do think he will have issues with the deca though.

Screw proviron, you wanna lower shbg use drol or mast. :D

Anything that converts to excess estrogen and bloat is a waste. Point of running cycle is to get as much as possible with as little sides. Ever heard of diminishing returns? But hey if that's what he wants then so be it. What it really comes down to is his diet. I personally don't think he needs that much gear... Being that what he is taking is not underdosed.


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[Androman]

I think OP can gain the same amount on 600mg test, 400mg Deca, 50mg TrenA ED and about 25mg dbol ED with far less sides and unnecessary excess water weight gain, being that all his product is of quality and properly dosed. Along with high caloric intake of course.

No lie he has a great stack right there. Only thing he has to watch out for is prolactin/prog but with caber on hand there should be no problem.


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[epix00]

Competing against myself to be the biggest baddest version of me I can br. Worth more than a trophy if you ask me. I don't think it's going to be a waste, it's more a question of diminishing returns versus sides. If the sides become overwhelming and I can't adequately combat them then yes it's too much. I'd rather max out receptors and have a little unused vs not max out receptors and have room for more growth. I don't think 3 grams will max out anything though based upon what I have seen with my cycle history. If I'm not responding in a fashion correlated to the extra AAS compared to my past gains then I will reduce the amount being ran. I'm not going to continue to just run excessive amounts if nothing is happening...but finding out my tolerance is the goal.

[Androman]

Ok what about your overall health? You know; the internal side effects that you don't see. You get bloodwork done? HDL, LDL, hematocrit/hemoglobin, LH/FSH, liver enzymes, you worried about any of that? What do you take for prostate? What do you take for on-cycle support? Do you donate blood? Hope so cuz no one likes thick yogurt blood. You're also taking arimidex, I actually mentioned its effects on lipids with bouncer on his thread I think, not to mention Dbol's and tren's effect on it as well. Do you cycle or just blast and cruise? You're gonna be on these dosages for four months, that's quite a while on heavy and suppressive gear. How's your diet like? Im new to the forum so I don't know you as much as others do but id like to get to know, so what're your stats, you got to be huge. Nonetheless bro be safe and grow.


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