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  • You'll body will adjust. I had a hard time sleeping too because of the pain in my hands but after about 5-6 months it got noticeably better. Now they get numb during the night but not to the point where I can't sleep.

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    • I will start taking aromasin instead of adex... have not taking an AI in about 2 weeks since my e2 levels came back normal and I wanted a little water retention for a fuller look...
      4 months sounds about right as my friend said the sides diminish at that time and he was running a higher dose

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      • You ever thought of running slin when you get to a higher dose

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        • Don't want to run HGH doses high enough that I need to run slin. Although I do believe you can make some great gains by running it, you hear the horror stories that can happen if used incorrectly.

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          • Reason why I was asking... I wouldn't touch slin with a 10foot pool... idc if it's even a small dose... just not worth it IMO... especially if you not gona go pro or some shit....
            I Think as long as you check your BG on the regular you will be fine..

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            • I haven't updated this log since last summer. I ran the blacks for a year straight. Loved the results and plan to stay on for a long time.

              All my igf-1 testing was done on 4iu of HGH. After I ran 5 different tests on multiple brands I dropped my dose to 3.33iu a day. And that's the dose I've been at for the past year.

              2 weeks ago I switched over to the grey tops. I'm told they are very similar to the black tops but less water retention. I had blood work done last Friday and at 3.33iu. I figured I'd test at 3.33iu since that's what I plan to stay at for a while. They scores a 507. Just a tad under the blacks but still very good.

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              • Do these tops have a specific name? Like RIPs or hyge?

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                • Black tops are mediatropes and the grey tops are the old hyges. You can only get from homer or TP.

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                  • Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
                    Black tops are mediatropes and the grey tops are the old hyges. You can only get from homer or TP.
                    Don't know what homer or TP means, but I can most def get the Hyges...

                    Not a bad score tho

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                    • Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
                      Black tops are mediatropes and the grey tops are the old hyges. You can only get from homer or TP.
                      was it u that said something about the black tops bringing 15ius per vial and about the same price as greys?

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                      • Originally posted by Androman View Post
                        was it u that said something about the black tops bringing 15ius per vial and about the same price as greys?

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                        No. They usually score the same as the greys. And the main 2 guys selling have only said 10iu.

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                        • Originally posted by Androman View Post
                          was it u that said something about the black tops bringing 15ius per vial and about the same price as greys?

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                          yes theres a guy that claims they are 15ius per vial
                          frank the skank said it before also so I know where that comes from but IGF tests have proven over and over they are 10 just like the grey. chad and many other get a bit hight IGF on blacks then grey so it is a bit higher but no way 15ius.
                          the grey retain much much less water I am glad chad went with grey this time he will be more ripped for sure this summer.

                          chad 507 is to high bro drop down to 2.5ius per day it will last longer and reduce your chances of bad shit. did you get any glucose tests? I'm wondering how high that is on your doses? your young and feel invincible I get it but you dont want diabetes bro your not doing "cycles" your on this shit long long time be safe and smart

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                          • Originally posted by ROCKETS REVENGE View Post
                            yes theres a guy that claims they are 15ius per vial
                            frank the skank said it before also so I know where that comes from but IGF tests have proven over and over they are 10 just like the grey. chad and many other get a bit hight IGF on blacks then grey so it is a bit higher but no way 15ius.
                            the grey retain much much less water I am glad chad went with grey this time he will be more ripped for sure this summer.

                            chad 507 is to high bro drop down to 2.5ius per day it will last longer and reduce your chances of bad shit. did you get any glucose tests? I'm wondering how high that is on your doses? your young and feel invincible I get it but you dont want diabetes bro your not doing "cycles" your on this shit long long time be safe and smart
                            You think you can get low blood sugar on HGH with a score of 600 or so?... My answer is no

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                            • Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                              You think you can get low blood sugar on HGH with a score of 600 or so?... My answer is no

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                              Overtime high igf levels can and will fuck you up in terms of insulin sensitivity.

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                              • Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                                Overtime high igf levels can and will fuck you up in terms of insulin sensitivity.
                                Does not make sense to me... you have any studies to back that up?. If it causes insulin sensitivity then why people take slin with it @ high dose or long period of time? Because of insulin resistance; however I never heard it would drop blood sugar

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