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this why i said chads sides and hand swelling are not necessarily a good sign. obviously the igf levels are good. but igf levels are not causing those sides. begs the question what kind of other shit is in these generics. some type of filler that could be potentially dangerous for all we know. like i said, i ran pharm grade gh back in the day and had amazing results but absolutely nowhere near the water retention.
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yep that has always been a question that no one can anwser because of stupid ORD. I run 1 vial generic 1 vial sero then back and forth figure I will die slower this wayOriginally posted by Bouncer View Postthis why i said chads sides and hand swelling are not necessarily a good sign. obviously the igf levels are good. but igf levels are not causing those sides. begs the question what kind of other shit is in these generics. some type of filler that could be potentially dangerous for all we know. like i said, i ran pharm grade gh back in the day and had amazing results but absolutely nowhere near the water retention.
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What do you guys recommend for gh dosing? I'm going to try GH for the first time and want to know how to take it. Thinking of starting at 2 Iu's then build up to 3 or 4. If I'm taking 2 or 3 iu's ED, would I split them morning and night or take them all in the morning?
I see Chad is taking 2 in the morning and 2 at night.
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What are you trying to accomplish with the GH? Rocket's trt doctor states it's best to keep your igf levels at 350 to receive the health benefits and not put you at risk with your insulin levels. Best way to know is to get blood work as each kit/brand is so different. As you can see with my blood work some seem super low and others seem to be right on.Originally posted by razo View PostWhat do you guys recommend for gh dosing? I'm going to try GH for the first time and want to know how to take it. Thinking of starting at 2 Iu's then build up to 3 or 4. If I'm taking 2 or 3 iu's ED, would I split them morning and night or take them all in the morning?
I see Chad is taking 2 in the morning and 2 at night.
Also, which brand are you using?
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Chad, I will be trying Ansomone.Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostWhat are you trying to accomplish with the GH? Rocket's trt doctor states it's best to keep your igf levels at 350 to receive the health benefits and not put you at risk with your insulin levels. Best way to know is to get blood work as each kit/brand is so different. As you can see with my blood work some seem super low and others seem to be right on.
Also, which brand are you using?
Honestly just want to lose some body fat and sleep better. Im such a bad sleeper. Sometimes I'll goto bed at 10 and toss and turn till like 3 or 4 and finally fall asleep and have to be up at 6.
I hear from everyone who takes gh that they sleep like rocks. I'm not expecting much from taking low dosages. If gh improves my sleep I will run it for like 6 months.
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Razo, I'll be starting my Ansomone tomorrow and will be getting blood work done next week sometime. You can wait until I get my blood work back (but each person is a little different depending on their natural igf levels) or I'd run it at 2iu a day. If dosed properly that should put you in the 350 range.
I also sleep terrible. I'm up multiple times a night. So far I haven't noticed any difference in my sleep pattern. But I honestly didn't expect to. Nothing really seems to help! lol
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Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostRazo, I'll be starting my Ansomone tomorrow and will be getting blood work done next week sometime. You can wait until I get my blood work back (but each person is a little different depending on their natural igf levels) or I'd run it at 2iu a day. If dosed properly that should put you in the 350 range.
I also sleep terrible. I'm up multiple times a night. So far I haven't noticed any difference in my sleep pattern. But I honestly didn't expect to. Nothing really seems to help! lol
Yea bro, me too. Not sleeping is ruining my life. I'm a completely different person when I get a good night's sleep. I've been a bad sleeper since I was a kid. As I get older it's getting harder to function on 3-4 hours rest every day. Only days I get sleep like 8-10 is on my off days from work.
Thanks for running this log.
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ambien works wonders for me. I bite them in half and only take when I am going to bed. if you take and stay up thats when weird shit happens lol dont do thatOriginally posted by razo View PostYea bro, me too. Not sleeping is ruining my life. I'm a completely different person when I get a good night's sleep. I've been a bad sleeper since I was a kid. As I get older it's getting harder to function on 3-4 hours rest every day. Only days I get sleep like 8-10 is on my off days from work.
Thanks for running this log.
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I'm going to have and get a hold of some if this continues. Going to see what gh does first. It's the weirdest thing, I'll work a full day come back home tired as shit, eat, goto sleep at around 8:30, fall asleep, get up around 12:30 because I have to take a piss or drink some water and won't be able to go back to sleep and I'll toss and turn for a few hours, fall asleep at like 3 or 4, and have to be up again at 6.Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Postambien works wonders for me. I bite them in half and only take when I am going to bed. if you take and stay up thats when weird shit happens lol dont do that
It's horrible.
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I used to be same way I would fall asleep but wake up to piss or what ever and I couldn't go back to sleep. it got so bad I put stress on myself when I woke up already worried I wouldn't go back to sleep. ambien lets me sleep the night and piss in morning or if I get up I go right back instant.Originally posted by razo View PostI'm going to have and get a hold of some if this continues. Going to see what gh does first. It's the weirdest thing, I'll work a full day come back home tired as shit, eat, goto sleep at around 8:30, fall asleep, get up around 12:30 because I have to take a piss or drink some water and won't be able to go back to sleep and I'll toss and turn for a few hours, fall asleep at like 3 or 4, and have to be up again at 6.
It's horrible.
I also have a sleep apnea machine I think my sleep apnea was a huge part.
Im so paranoid I just take the ambien just in case now,lol I bite them in half and works wonders
good luck bro sleep is important of coarse
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Thanks for the info brother. Ambien might be the key. Next time I visit the doctor, I'll have him shoot me a script. No longer will I wake up cranky and pissed off at the world.Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View PostI used to be same way I would fall asleep but wake up to piss or what ever and I couldn't go back to sleep. it got so bad I put stress on myself when I woke up already worried I wouldn't go back to sleep. ambien lets me sleep the night and piss in morning or if I get up I go right back instant.
I also have a sleep apnea machine I think my sleep apnea was a huge part.
Im so paranoid I just take the ambien just in case now,lol I bite them in half and works wonders
good luck bro sleep is important of coarse
I'm Curious as well Chadd. Again, thanks for doing this.Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostI started running Ansomone yesterday at 4iu a day (2iu morning & 2iu evening). I'll be getting my blood work done late next week. I'm curious how these will test compared to the others I've ran.
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