So, hypothetically, if I were, hypothetically going to do a cycle...

[FrankTheTank55]

I dont get the 20ccs thing? You're gonna use 2 bottles of tren ace over a 16 week span???

[FrankTheTank55]

I also don't see why people say tren isn't for beginners? If you can't handle it just drop it. People act like it's DNP or slin....lol

[wheyman]

If it's your first cycle, why not just run test only? That seems like a lot of shit for a first cycle and like Bouncer said there isn't any test in your proposed cycle. You might end up lean, but you also end up being Caitlyn Jenner.

[Bouncer]

I also don't see why people say tren isn't for beginners? If you can't handle it just drop it. People act like it's DNP or slin....lol

Sides can take a long time to go away in my experience. I was mental case with puffy sore nips on very low dose. Took 2 months to feel normal again. Hate that shit.

I had many more side effects from tren than I did from slin..

[razo]

I also don't see why people say tren isn't for beginners? If you can't handle it just drop it. People act like it's DNP or slin....lol

I don't know Frank. I've tried alot of stuff in the past and for sure Tren was the one that gave me the most sides. It just wasn't for me but I do agree with you that maybe some guys could handle it better.

[FrankTheTank55]

Another thing with his cycle, EQ needs to be ran like 20+ weeks and he is gonna need way more then 2 bottles of everything.

And Chris something else to think about is, being your first cycle you probably want to run long esters because the least amount of injections the better for somebody who's never poked themself before. I like Bouncer's suggestion.

Test E 250mgs twice a week
Mast E 200mgs twice a week
Anavar or Tbol if you want an oral thrown in.

[rado]

And make sure you get your igf tested as well

[Bouncer]

Stfu gaydo.

[lipripper]

see..this is what this board is about....good shit men! you too Bouncer..:D

[boricuarage79]

Sides can take a long time to go away in my experience. I was mental case with puffy sore nips on very low dose. Took 2 months to feel normal again. Hate that shit.

I had many more side effects from tren than I did from slin..

Were you on Tren E?

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[boricuarage79]

I also don't see why people say tren isn't for beginners? If you can't handle it just drop it. People act like it's DNP or slin....lol

Because he should start out with Test! As well as all beginners should.. if you can not handle test; then you are definitely not ready for TREN!

Might as well run Sdrol in the mix(sarcasm)

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[FrankTheTank55]

Because he should start out with Test! As well as all beginners should.. if you can not handle test; then you are definitely not ready for TREN!

Might as well run Sdrol in the mix(sarcasm)

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Ever met anybody that couldn't "handle" test??? And if you can't handle tren you just get off it, so what if it takes a few days to get out of your system, it isn't gonna kill you.

If you are afraid to run something because it might give you insomnia or make you mean and aggressive then you shouldn't even be in a gym!

And for the sdrol, you've ran it and it was harsh on you???

[boricuarage79]

Ever met anybody that couldn't "handle" test??? And if you can't handle tren you just get off it, so what if it takes a few days to get out of your system, it isn't gonna kill you.

If you are afraid to run something because it might give you insomnia or make you mean and aggressive then you shouldn't even be in a gym!

And for the sdrol, you've ran it and it was harsh on you???

Yes I known people that can not handle test...prolly cause they estro sensitive and even with AI they have trouble.

1gram of test and my BP is through the roof! Never again..

Brother my point is everyone should have a test base and not run tren alone..
I do not advice Tren alone as a first cycle as it can possibly affect prolactin and some people don't even know what the hell caber is.. and I got friends that don't even know what caber is let alone prolactin...
Everyone responds different so each of its own.

I never ran Sdrol as I will stay away because of the BP issues and harsh on liver however all Orals can be bad, but it is an Interesting compound..

I done anadrol and I did not like it at all..

Right now I'm on TrenA/TestP/Mast T3 cycle...

Only sides i been getting is the test flu and a little bit night sweat for couple days now, but only because I been off gear for few months

T

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[boricuarage79]

Oh and I have done DNP from a popular source that overdose there products. You can't even get it no more.
Only thing was night sweats, but then again I did it in the summer

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[boricuarage79]

Another thing with his cycle, EQ needs to be ran like 20+ weeks and he is gonna need way more then 2 bottles of everything.

And Chris something else to think about is, being your first cycle you probably want to run long esters because the least amount of injections the better for somebody who's never poked themself before. I like Bouncer's suggestion.

Test E 250mgs twice a week
Mast E 200mgs twice a week
Anavar or Tbol if you want an oral thrown in.

I like to know his stats.

Mast won't have any benefit if he is in the higher BF range

Winny seems like a better choice.. you gona have to run anavar higher dosage, but it's expensive for some people.



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