So, hypothetically, if I were, hypothetically going to do a cycle...

[FrankTheTank55]

Yeah I wouldnt suggest anybody use anything without test. But I know some guys that run tren with very little test and they do well with it like that.

My first cycle was test e/tren e and I loved it! The only thing that sucked was after seeing my result (that we all see with our first cycles) I was amazed and kept chasing that feeling. So I started adding more and my cycles after that kept getting bigger and bigger. I guess just like any drug, the first time blows your mind and you are always chasing that feeling every time after, but you never get it....lol

Now that I am older I keep things basic and mild. No more tren for me because I love sleeping more then anything these days...lol

[boricuarage79]

Tren should always be higher than the Test dosage IMO.. the other way around and you just get unwanted sides..

Read this

https://www.superiormuscle.com/forum...6775-laws-tren

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[rado]

Tren should always be higher than the Test dosage IMO.. the other way around and you just get unwanted sides..

Read this

https://www.superiormuscle.com/forum...6775-laws-tren

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I've done both ways. I personally like my tren higher than my test

[boricuarage79]

I agree

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[razo]

Yea Frank, but being mean and agressive in the gym is a good thing but being mean and agressive because your kid spilled some juice on the couch or because some dude cut you off on the road is not a good thing. I'm not a mild tempered person to begin with, shit runs in my family. Add tren to the mix and I know for a fact it's going to raise my bp and that's not a good thing.

Maybe, the stuff I was taking at the time was too pure (finaplix + aroma kit = Tren), and maybe lab tren isn't as potent but if it's any thing like the stuff I use to take then I want nothing to do with it.

Ever met anybody that couldn't "handle" test??? And if you can't handle tren you just get off it, so what if it takes a few days to get out of your system, it isn't gonna kill you.

If you are afraid to run something because it might give you insomnia or make you mean and aggressive then you shouldn't even be in a gym!

And for the sdrol, you've ran it and it was harsh on you???

[Erod13]

Good info guys, especially for a noob like me that's on the second go around with test only.

[NewbieChris]

So, back to the drawing board. Ha. I'm still really stuck on the tren idea because of the results I read about. But I'll have to rethink all this.

[razo]

So, back to the drawing board. Ha. I'm still really stuck on the tren idea because of the results I read about. But I'll have to rethink all this.

Chris, I'm not trying to sway you from trying Tren. You might like the feeling it gives you. Everyone is different. The amazing thing about tren was the strength gains. It makes you stronger without the water retention. So you get lean and strong which is a killer combo. You get so strong that sometimes it could lead to injury.

Another thing I didn't like was the Tren Cough. Every time I injected, I could taste it in my mouth. My pores would reek Tren. I think one time the cough was so bad that I started feeling light headed and almost fell over lol.

[boricuarage79]

I'm going to tell y'all something for those who are new to tren. This is a drug that is a force not to be reckon with.
I am diagnosed with PTSD(ex soldier) and have a history with temper and violence. (Reason why I fought in MMA), helped with aggression.
Anyways tren made my psychological symptoms even worse about 5 years ago..
Fast forward and now I'm back on tren!! Even @ a low dose and I'm feeling irritated!!, my dreams are wierder and not to mention I had the test flu that put me on my ass for a few days, almost quit the cycle and I'm on my second week!! I have meds to help irritations,anxiety and so forth, but I do not recommend it to others as they are addicticting.

Think about what you are getting yourself into.. some people want to jump on the tren bandwagon, but don't even know what the hell prolactin/progesterone is!!

My first cycle in my early 30's and I'm 38 now was winstrol. Then test and dbol and so on..


I do not like people so to say, But when it comes to the gym and forums.. everyone is my brother and sister!

T

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[rado]

So, back to the drawing board. Ha. I'm still really stuck on the tren idea because of the results I read about. But I'll have to rethink all this.

Just don't do it as your first cycle, that's all.

I've been using tren for a very long time, and i run year long cycles with it. My most recent run was 6 months with tren.

Just wait. Keep the test as youe base.

[boricuarage79]

Just don't do it as your first cycle, that's all.

I've been using tren for a very long time, and i run year long cycles with it. My most recent run was 6 months with tren.

Just wait. Keep the test as youe base.

Hey rado

Can you read through this real quick..

Had some issues at the gym today..

Done plenty of cycles but it's been a long time since I don't tren and t3

Just got off 5 month's ago from a blast and cruise if test alone for a year.

So I posted this in another forum..

Your thoughts?

Update..

Had test flu for a couple of days..

Blood pressure and heart rate was normal before I got the gym today

Started hitting shoulders and my rest heart rate was between 110-120.. .

I rested for couple minutes and it never went under 100..

Working sets went to 130 which I'm I get that, but my rest heart rate?

So I decided to try to walk on the curve treadmill for one min and my heart was 150bp..just from walking?

Try a couple more sets and my heart is just all over the place..*

I stopped with the workouts cause I was freaking out a bit

I took 25mcg of t3 before work out..

It's my 3rd day of pinning 75mgs of tren/test/Mast EOD.

I'M sitting in the locker room and my bpm is 103..

I know t3 and tren can increase heart rate but when I'm at home relaxed everything is normal.*

I just think 120 is to high for resting...

When I'm not on gear my HR is normal when I rest.. cardio I keep it between 130-140

Any suggestions?





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[rado]

Hey rado

Can you read through this real quick..

Had some issues at the gym today..

Done plenty of cycles but it's been a long time since I don't tren and t3

Just got off 5 month's ago from a blast and cruise if test alone for a year.

So I posted this in another forum..

Your thoughts?

Update..

Had test flu for a couple of days..

Blood pressure and heart rate was normal before I got the gym today

Started hitting shoulders and my rest heart rate was between 110-120.. .

I rested for couple minutes and it never went under 100..

Working sets went to 130 which I'm I get that, but my rest heart rate?

So I decided to try to walk on the curve treadmill for one min and my heart was 150bp..just from walking?

Try a couple more sets and my heart is just all over the place..*

I stopped with the workouts cause I was freaking out a bit

I took 25mcg of t3 before work out..

It's my 3rd day of pinning 75mgs of tren/test/Mast EOD.

I'M sitting in the locker room and my bpm is 103..

I know t3 and tren can increase heart rate but when I'm at home relaxed everything is normal.*

I just think 120 is to high for resting...

When I'm not on gear my HR is normal when I rest.. cardio I keep it between 130-140

Any suggestions?





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im on the road right now but wanted to letyou know ive seen this post. Let me get home and I'll go more into detail brother

[boricuarage79]

im on the road right now but wanted to letyou know ive seen this post. Let me get home and I'll go more into detail brother

Appreciated bro

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[Bouncer]

It's important to keep in mind why Newbiechris wants to use tren. He has loose skin from when he used to be fat and he believes tren will help get rid of that. He says he's tried everything diet wise and it just wont go away.

This is why I'm so opposed to it. Tren will not help with loose skin. I know you've read some things that got you excited chris but I'm sorry, tren just won't help with that issue.

the only drug that I can possibly imagine having any effect on loose skin would be Gh and even that would be a stretch. Pun intended. :D

[Bouncer]

Hey rado

Can you read through this real quick..

Had some issues at the gym today..

Done plenty of cycles but it's been a long time since I don't tren and t3

Just got off 5 month's ago from a blast and cruise if test alone for a year.

So I posted this in another forum..

Your thoughts?

Update..

Had test flu for a couple of days..

Blood pressure and heart rate was normal before I got the gym today

Started hitting shoulders and my rest heart rate was between 110-120.. .

I rested for couple minutes and it never went under 100..

Working sets went to 130 which I'm I get that, but my rest heart rate?

So I decided to try to walk on the curve treadmill for one min and my heart was 150bp..just from walking?

Try a couple more sets and my heart is just all over the place..*

I stopped with the workouts cause I was freaking out a bit

I took 25mcg of t3 before work out..

It's my 3rd day of pinning 75mgs of tren/test/Mast EOD.

I'M sitting in the locker room and my bpm is 103..

I know t3 and tren can increase heart rate but when I'm at home relaxed everything is normal.*

I just think 120 is to high for resting...

When I'm not on gear my HR is normal when I rest.. cardio I keep it between 130-140

Any suggestions?

answer is obvious. it's the t3. are you sure it's dosed properly? tren may also be contributing but t3 is the primary candidate. why are you on it?