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    Rado was nice enough to give me his winnings on the condition I have a log and do bloods. I do not have the gear yet but when I do I will post pictures of it.

    What to expect?

    I am going to be pretty detailed on my training and diet. I will probably go into too much detail on the philosophy behind my diet but I am passionate about it.

    Log Goals:

    1. Keep track of my diet, posting it to keep it strict through peer pressure and to receive feedback.

    2. Keep track of my training, posting it to receive feedback.

    3. Posting my hormones, there is a lot of interesting studies I have been reading and I want to tweak my diet and training to see how it affects me.

    I have some blood tests coming up so I will know my base for a bunch of different measurements. I will do a female hormome panel around 3-4 weeks into my cycle and one again at the end with a bunch of other tests.

    My cycle will be 100mg test p every week, 33mg M/W/F. 150mg tren a every week, 50mg M/W/F. I plan on bumping the tren up 50mg/week after several weeks at the same level. I want to see how my body reacts to low test high tren. I will add in the winny sometime at the end of the cycle. I have not decided the dose. At the end I will give you begennimg, middle, and end progress pics. I will start out with .25mg of adex eod. I do not have prami but will purchase some if projesterone/prolactin gets out of hand.


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    Cool. I'm curious as to see what 100 test a week will put bloods at.. The lowest iv ran test was 150 and I'll have to check where that put me at.

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    • #3
      The idea is that it keeps the sides low. Tren is said to be anabolically and androgenic 5x times stronger then test. Like I said, I plan on increasing the dose of tren every few weeks by 50mg/w up until the sides are bad enough I need prami and then once I stabilize on prami I will continue to increase the tren while keeping the test the same to see how high I can comfortably go.

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      • #4
        There was a post on here back in 2012 that got me curious about trying it myself.

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        • #5
          I'm excited to see others take part and hopefully gain some good experiences.

          It is not about being big, strong or looking like a bodybuilder. If one takes gear how they want and make great progress, that's awesome. We have hundreds if not thousands of guests viewing this board on a daily basis.

          I like your set-up, it is different. But you also have different views and I like that.

          Once I get it, we will talk again bro

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rado View Post
            I'm excited to see others take part and hopefully gain some good experiences.

            It is not about being big, strong or looking like a bodybuilder. If one takes gear how they want and make great progress, that's awesome. We have hundreds if not thousands of guests viewing this board on a daily basis.

            I like your set-up, it is different. But you also have different views and I like that.

            Once I get it, we will talk again bro
            Good deal. Maybe you can gove me some pointers. Im going to post more details about my setup when I get home.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post
              Good deal. Maybe you can gove me some pointers. Im going to post more details about my setup when I get home.

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              Pointers? Stay focused is all i can say. Easy to get off track. Listen to your body, not my opinion or others.

              I like how you think, it is different than most. We need stuff like this, something out of the "norm"

              You're a good guy and a big ass sasquatch :thumup:

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              • #8
                First off, a summary of my diet philosophy. I have been interested in intermittent fasting for quite a while after I realized I was not dedicated enough to stay on a ketogenic diet for long periods of time. I was following the “Leangains” protocol which is fasting for 16 hours and then having a feeding window of 8 hours. You split your meals into 3 portions. The first is several hours before you work out, this is a small meal. Your main meal is right after you work out, and a final meal is before you go to bed (if you train in the evening). I liked this protocol because it was easy for me to carb load right after I worked out.

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                I have recently decided to switch to alternate day fasting. There are 2 common methods of alternate day fasting. One is you take 2 days out of the week and you fast, no eating and only drinking calorie free beverages. The other is you take 2 days out of the week to fast but you consume around 500 calories on the fast days, which makes it not a fast in my opinion.


                All three of these methods have studies in academic journal articles supporting their benefits. HGH levels increase up to 5 times your normal level while fasting, insulin sensitivity improves, you have faster cellular repair, reduced adipocyte size, reduced inflammatory markers, reduction in LDL cholesterol, and there is a strong correlation with fasting and disease prevention. What made me change to alternate day fasting is studies have shown that this method creates the largest increase in IGF-1 levels. Additionally, you are only fasting for 2 days and eat maintenance the others, “When caloric restriction is present, mammals synthesise less IGF-1 and its synthesis in the liver is refractory to GH stimulation.” The fast stimulates IGF-1 production and then eating maintenance does decrease normal production. To add to this exercise also increases IGF-1 expression. I have not read any studies testing the two together but I assume they would complement each other. Lastly, alternate day fasting has been shown to not spur on metabolic adaptation; yes it does exist and if you do not believe me PM me and I will send you numerous recent studies that show this is the case.



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post
                  First off, a summary of my diet philosophy. I have been interested in intermittent fasting for quite a while after I realized I was not dedicated enough to stay on a ketogenic diet for long periods of time. I was following the “Leangains” protocol which is fasting for 16 hours and then having a feeding window of 8 hours. You split your meals into 3 portions. The first is several hours before you work out, this is a small meal. Your main meal is right after you work out, and a final meal is before you go to bed (if you train in the evening). I liked this protocol because it was easy for me to carb load right after I worked out.

                  *
                  I have recently decided to switch to alternate day fasting. There are 2 common methods of alternate day fasting. One is you take 2 days out of the week and you fast, no eating and only drinking calorie free beverages. The other is you take 2 days out of the week to fast but you consume around 500 calories on the fast days, which makes it not a fast in my opinion.


                  All three of these methods have studies in academic journal articles supporting their benefits. HGH levels increase up to 5 times your normal level while fasting, insulin sensitivity improves, you have faster cellular repair, reduced adipocyte size, reduced inflammatory markers, reduction in LDL cholesterol, and there is a strong correlation with fasting and disease prevention. What made me change to alternate day fasting is studies have shown that this method creates the largest increase in IGF-1 levels. Additionally, you are only fasting for 2 days and eat maintenance the others, “When caloric restriction is present, mammals synthesise less IGF-1 and its synthesis in the liver is refractory to GH stimulation.” The fast stimulates IGF-1 production and then eating maintenance does decrease normal production. To add to this exercise also increases IGF-1 expression. I have not ready any studies testing the two together but I assume they would complement each other. Lastly, alternate day fasting has been shown to not spur on metabolic adaptation; yes it does exist and if you do not believe me PM me and I will send you numerous recent studies that show this is the case.



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                  That all sounds great bro and I know you have the science to back it up. Now do it!

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                  • #10
                    Damn bro...seems you've really reseached that. I'm interested to see how this works out.good luck with it.

                    What are your goals with this cycle and diet...and how long do you plan to run it to reach the goal?

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                    • #11
                      The diet I hope to keep it up for years. The cycle, will last a couple months likely. Ill keep on increasing and analyzing how I feel until I hit my upper limit with low test/high tren, then Ill take a break and decide what I will do next. Goals are to satisfy my curiosity on how much muscle mass I can gain and how toned I can be with this regimen.

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                      • #12
                        I put on a little more flubber over the winter but sticking to this diet will drop the bodyfat fast. Here are my current stats. I am going to a Complete Nutrition next Friday and Ill share what their fancy bioelectrical impedance machine has to say.

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                        • #13
                          My feeding regimen: Wednesday and Sunday I will fast. The other days I will try to consume around 3000 kcal. 263g of carbohydrates, 100g of fat, and 263g of protein. I chose 3000 kcal because a while ago I had my base metabolic rate tested and it is 2807 kcal. I do not want to go below this number.

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                          • #14
                            And this fucker hasn't even started!!! Love the enthusiasm:D

                            Someone get this fella a cake

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                            • #15
                              Workout Schedule

                              I just started this routine. It is German Volume training 10 sets of 10 reps, or as close as I can get.

                              Chest and biceps
                              flat bench, flat bench flyes, straight arm dumbell pullover, zottman curls, supermans (cable curl)

                              Legs and abs
                              front squats, leg extensions, straight leg deadlift, laying leg curl, cable crunch

                              Back, triceps and abs
                              cable pulldown, cable row, face pulls, tricep pushdown, laying tricep extension, hanging knee raises

                              Shoulders and calves
                              overhead press, overhead front shoulder raises, shrugs, calf raises, reverse calf raise

                              The latter exercises for the bodygroups, even if I go pretty light, I have trouble getting 10 sets. I end up getting just a couple reps. Lets see what I will be able to do 8 weeks after I start Prime's gear.

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