Bouncers Deca Only Cycle Log

[Androman]

I over looked the part where u said pregnant women produce nandrolone naturaly, men do too. It's produced in our male body's just like testosterone only in small amounts and usually after strenuous events.

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Yea I know they did but like you said small amounts.

[boricuarage79]

Gooddamn everyone posting novels and shit!! Just let be do the damn thing and stfu [emoji3]

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[Androman]

Test is the sides from nandrolone save deca dick if ur susceptible to it. Nandrolone is allmost as fantastic as tren imo damn near the hardning more mass full and defined. Have u ever tryed it in a way u could actually c what it does 4 if it is buried under 300 to 700 migs of t (or more???) all one can do is give it an unfair judgment, to much test denigrates the beauty of all androgens . And eq, mast, tren, var, tball, methelstin, methelmast (and more) all have verry unique differences tho I could not CLEARLY c them untill I got to much test out of the way. Androgens other than test complement each other test made them dirty or hard, I don't know how 2 describe just shitty. By the way, if something made my dick soft I'd hate that shit too. But 4 me and a lot of others deca is a beautiful powerful steroid and completely unique. Nandrolone is like tren set apart, and if one factors in no sides from deca if I had to choose one 4 the rest of my life, nandrolone hands down. Just the thought of no tren 4 the rest of my life was fucking terrable, glad I don't have 2 choose.

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Yes it's possible that Test did mask deca gains. But in my experience Test doesn't mask EQ/Tren or any other "dryer" anabolic, atleast for me even at the same dose. So from my experience, all deca did for me was give me extra water retention because I already know how I respond on Test alone and with Eq/Tren. But that's why Im looking forward to bouncers results because I'm intrigued, maybe it is a dry gainer without Test.


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[Bouncer]

Deca being a "dry gainer" doesn't make sense as it's considered a "wet steroid". When I think dry I think masteron, winstrol etc..

[Chicken]

Yes it's possible that Test did mask deca gains. But in my experience Test doesn't mask EQ/Tren or any other "dryer" anabolic, atleast for me even at the same dose. So from my experience, all deca did for me was give me extra water retention because I already know how I respond on Test alone and with Eq/Tren. But that's why Im looking forward to bouncers results because I'm intrigued, maybe it is a dry gainer without Test.


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I belive I said denigrate like insults other steroids, was not a good word but it is if one gave each steroid a character ( and each do have unique charistics)then high test slanders most of them imop.How strong is test, the aromitiziation from it alone can grow u a set of tits, masts, damage our hearts, swell our prostate an acne. Think about it like this, test is wet it's the measure by which other steroids are placed aganst in terms of aromitiziation. (I'm going 2 assume now) I suppose by what u have stated earler that you have 2 use in the least an ai while on test at the current accepted rate on cycle( just throwing out a number) 500 as (the base). My self at that rate I would have to take anastrazol just to lessen the symptoms of gyno and water retention (and water is illusive sometimes) but I would also use nolva to make my tits comfortable and just comfortable 4 I would still have that underling nauing feeling my tits were not quite right. When on tren as well as test, at that rate , I also used caber, beacuse my shit just was not quite right, just following protocol ( with the exception of nolva and 19 nor together but nothing is as good as nolva in my body 4 stopping gyno symptoms ). So what I was doing was taking a high supraphysiological amaount of wet steroid plus three other drugs. How can one clearly c what is doing what? I did c results from tren and alot but I never saw tren 4 what it really was until I got the other drugs out of the pik. To much t is like throwin fuel on a fire, imop. Tren is so crisp, by it self with few sides. No worring. Which is the work horse in that cycle? How much good will a supraphysiological dose of t do when running a steroid 5 times stronger than it is? And here is one thing iv never understood if u want to get dry and plan a cycle with dry products why would one add one of the wettest steroids to it unless they were doing strong man had joint issues or got a limp dick? And last deca is dry 4 me when u get watery test out of the pik. Best of luck bouncer, what ever rout u take.

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[Bouncer]

Ok guys, just in case progesterone becomes a problem I want to be ready. I have always in the past either run progesterone drugs like deca or tren very low dose or avoided them all together because i'm sensitive to it. nips puff up within a few days on tren.

with that said, what is the best drug to control progesterone if it becomes a problem? I've heard of caber and dostinex? i know absolutely nothing about them. i remember bori saying prami is bad because it acts like an anti depressant or some shit. i dont want that if true. what is the typical dose and where would i find them? i'm assuming the same place i get my adex would carry it but i've never paid attention because i never had a worry of high progesterone.

thanks

[chuckz28]

Caber and dostinex are for prolactin not progesterone. I've never heard of an anti progesterone being used for bodybuilding they are primarily used for women to induce abortion. Wiki has a good description and list of a few but I doubt you'll be able to get ahold of any. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiprogestogen

Several hundred antiprogestogens have been developed, but only three, mifepristone, lilopristone, and onapristone, have been given to humans, and of these, only mifepristone has been approved and introduced for clinical use

[Bouncer]

Caber and dostinex are for prolactin not progesterone. I've never heard of an anti progesterone being used for bodybuilding they are primarily used for women to induce abortion. Wiki has a good description and list of a few but I doubt you'll be able to get ahold of any. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiprogestogen

Several hundred antiprogestogens have been developed, but only three, mifepristone, lilopristone, and onapristone, have been given to humans, and of these, only mifepristone has been approved and introduced for clinical use

ok well you know what i mean. lol. a lot of people get progesterone/prolactin issues even when estro levels are controlled. for example i get puffy nips in a week on tren when i add it to a test cycle while on adex. so even while my estro is controlled and causes me no problems on test, as soon as i add in tren boom puffy nips. so for that reason people use caber/bromo/prami etc.. I've heard the best one is caber but doesn't look like any of the research places sell it.

[chuckz28]

ok well you know what i mean. lol. a lot of people get progesterone/prolactin issues even when estro levels are controlled. for example i get puffy nips in a week on tren when i add it to a test cycle while on adex. so even while my estro is controlled and causes me no problems on test, as soon as i add in tren boom puffy nips. so for that reason people use caber/bromo/prami etc.. I've heard the best one is caber but doesn't look like any of the research places sell it.

I don't know enough about it to say anything about the effectivity but if you want research caber https://enhancedchemicals.com/shop/cabergoline/

[Bouncer]

I don't know enough about it to say anything about the effectivity but if you want research caber https://enhancedchemicals.com/shop/cabergoline/

something i've just been reading is that caber actually can't be suspended in liquid for some reason which is why most chemical research places don't use it. i wonder if there are any reviews on that product?

[chuckz28]

I'm not sure bro. That company is enhanced athletes aka Tony Huge and Trevor is all I know.

[Chicken]

ok well you know what i mean. lol. a lot of people get progesterone/prolactin issues even when estro levels are controlled. for example i get puffy nips in a week on tren when i add it to a test cycle while on adex. so even while my estro is controlled and causes me no problems on test, as soon as i add in tren boom puffy nips. so for that reason people use caber/bromo/prami etc.. I've heard the best one is caber but doesn't look like any of the research places sell it.

Test e 170. Tren. Up to 500. Nothing needed. Anastrazol and nolva on hand, if ur tes is stable befor u start the tren u won't need eather imo. An I belive the nolva with 19 nor thing may b true 4 some but it works 4 others. Ramp tren up 200, first week 300 2nd, like that, should c good returns there keep going if u want? Short esters different ratio. Caber is a wast of money imo.

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[Bouncer]

I'm not sure bro. That company is enhanced athletes aka Tony Huge and Trevor is all I know.

Yea I remember a peptide/research site contacted me about sponsorship. He asked me if there was anything the bodybuilding community would want on his list that he doesn't have. I mentioned caber. He said it's almost impossible to suspend in liquid and the cost of the raw material is so high he'd have to sell each bottle for like $150 to make a profit. So yea, I have my doubts about Tony huge products. LoL.

[Bouncer]

I may just bump my adex up if problems occur. If what they say is true, estrogen is needed for progesterone gyno to occur so adex should keep progesterone sides at Bay by controlling estro.

[boricuarage79]

Test e 170. Tren. Up to 500. Nothing needed. Anastrazol and nolva on hand, if ur tes is stable befor u start the tren u won't need eather imo. An I belive the nolva with 19 nor thing may b true 4 some but it works 4 others. Ramp tren up 200, first week 300 2nd, like that, should c good returns there keep going if u want? Short esters different ratio. Caber is a wast of money imo.

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Wtf are you talking about.. he is doing Deca not Tren and you must of got some shitty ass caber because it works like a charm

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