Bouncers Deca Only Cycle Log

[boricuarage79]

LMFAO :gaydo: :rofl:

Least someone caught that.. homo ass Chuck thinking about shit like that... D=Deca[emoji1]

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[Androman]

I'm gonna run 500mgs deca and 200mgs test c per week for 1 month to see what happens first. This is a reversal of my current cycle where my test is at 500 and deca at 200.

I've always done my test higher than any AAS I'm stacking it with so it should be interesting to see what happens.

If that goes well I'll drop the test and bump the deca up a bit.

OR.... I might just switch over to all deca right away. Lol. Haven't decided yet. Thoughts on how I should do it?

I feel like if I just drop test right away deca dick will be a guarantee.

I think u should taper off Test and do a Deca only cycle and see how that treats you for 12-16 weeks while keeping a very precise log.


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[Bouncer]

I think u should taper off Test and do a Deca only cycle and see how that treats you for 12-16 weeks while keeping a very precise log.


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problem with that is this...

its one thing to start a deca cycle from scratch. but by dropping the test that im already on and starting a deca only cycle i feel like i am guaranteeing myself issues. definitly in the sex department. i'm not willing to deal with that side at all. the second the noodle flops im injecting 5 grams of test. lol

so im going to slowly lower the test and raise the deca and see if there is a certain dose where i hit a tipping point where sides start. if no sides i will switch to deca only.

[Bouncer]

Been thinking about it more. To make this successful and not just dive into this only to get sides and kill the experiment I've got to be smart here. Since I've been using twice the amount of test as I have deca, the first thing I'm going to do is balance the dose and run the same amount of test and deca for a few weeks and see how that goes. Then I will transition to higher deca dose and lower the test dose and run that a few weeks. If all works fine I will then transition over to deca only.

I think my best chance of success with this is to taper off the test and slowly raise the deca. I think if you do things too fast the body is more likely to respond with side effects.

So stick with me, this will be a few months experiment.

[Androman]

problem with that is this...

its one thing to start a deca cycle from scratch. but by dropping the test that im already on and starting a deca only cycle i feel like i am guaranteeing myself issues. definitly in the sex department. i'm not willing to deal with that side at all. the second the noodle flops im injecting 5 grams of test. lol

Lol, I support you 100% and if you think that's best then so be it. But Man I have no idea how you can run nandrolone. Deca's been proven to make your penis smaller (atleast in my experience). My theory is that Dihydronandrolone attaches to the receptors that DHT attach to; The scalp, penis, prostate etc. that's why people say it's so "mild" in terms of prostate growth and hair loss etc aka "androgenic side effects", and if you didn't know DHT is what gives you that raging sturdy libido that you can probably knock down a brick house with..anyways the nandrolone molecule is also very identical to the progesterone molecule (kinda like Test and Estro) did you know that they give progesterone injections to serial rapists in prison, this is known as chemical castration. Even pregnant women produce nandrolone naturally. PREGNANT, WOMEN. You can even google it, people who are more open to homosexuality have higher levels of progesterone. I honestly think deca is pure shit. You can just take more Testosterone (you know, the male hormone), or you can throw in some Dbol and all you have to do is dial on your AI and maybe some Proviron for SHBG. Nandrolone makes my dick shrink and nipples flare up like a woman, but I will admit I feel great on it, moodwise, life does feel good.

This was in no way trying to get you not to do it. I'm just explaining why I hate nandrolone and will always stay away from it. But I'm interested to see if Test is really the reason for intensifying the sides of deca.


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[Bouncer]

Lol, I support you 100% and if you think that's best then so be it. But Man I have no idea how you can run nandrolone. Deca's been proven to make your penis smaller (atleast in my experience). My theory is that Dihydronandrolone attaches to the receptors that DHT attach to; The scalp, penis, prostate etc. that's why people say it's so "mild" in terms of prostate growth and hair loss etc aka "androgenic side effects", and if you didn't know DHT is what gives you that raging sturdy libido that you can probably knock down a brick house with..anyways the nandrolone molecule is also very identical to the progesterone molecule (kinda like Test and Estro) did you know that they give progesterone injections to serial rapists in prison, this is known as chemical castration. Even pregnant women produce nandrolone naturally. PREGNANT, WOMEN. You can even google it, people who are more open to homosexuality have higher levels of progesterone. I honestly think deca is pure shit. You can just take more Testosterone (you know, the male hormone), or you can throw in some Dbol and all you have to do is dial on your AI and maybe some Proviron for SHBG. Nandrolone makes my dick shrink and nipples flare up like a woman, but I will admit I feel great on it, moodwise, life does feel good.

This was in no way trying to get you not to do it. I'm just explaining why I hate nandrolone and will always stay away from it. But I'm interested to see if Test is really the reason for intensifying the sides of deca.


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Yea and that's why I'm doing it slow. I have zero sides when my test is twice the dose of deca. No gyno, always horny etc..

If that changes in any way I will kill the experiment immediately.

I like deca at low dose levels because it allows me to run a lower dose of test. When my test levels get too high I have trouble sleeping and I'm sort of always in fight or flight mode. So instead of just running 700mgs test I can run 500mgs test and 200mgs deca, get the same results, sleep better, less stressed, and to top it off deca makes my joints feel amazing.

Androgens stimulate the CNS. That's great in the gym for agressive training etc.. but when you can't turn that off when your home relaxing it becomes a problem. So lower androgen higher anabolic steroids like deca definitely have their place.

I bet you've always run deca at too high a dose. It has an extremely long ester so even at 200mgs per week that translates to roughly 650mgs per week because of the ester building up over a period of time. So if you ran something like 400-600mgs deca or higher per week you were actually running a shit load more than that which is what caused the sides IMO.

[Androman]

Bouncers Deca Only Cycle Log

Yea and that's why I'm doing it slow. I have zero sides when my test is twice the dose of deca. No gyno, always horny etc..

If that changes in any way I will kill the experiment immediately.

I like deca at low dose levels because it allows me to run a lower dose of test. When my test levels get too high I have trouble sleeping and I'm sort of always in fight or flight mode. So instead of just running 700mgs test I can run 500mgs test and 200mgs deca, get the same results, sleep better, less stressed, and to top it off deca makes my joints feel amazing.

Androgens stimulate the CNS. That's great in the gym for agressive training etc.. but when you can't turn that off when your home relaxing it becomes a problem. So lower androgen higher anabolic steroids like deca definitely have their place.

I bet you've always run deca at too high a dose. It has an extremely long ester so even at 200mgs per week that translates to roughly 650mgs per week because of the ester building up over a period of time. So if you ran something like 400-600mgs deca or higher per week you were actually running a shit load more than that which is what caused the sides IMO.

Yea when I ran deca it was always 400mg-450mg. Never dared going above that. I'm in to see your results and that's actually the first time I hear someone say they experience stress on high Test. I actually feel good on high Test, Although I did experience insomnia problems when I was running overdosed Test at 900mg which was probably 1.5x that dose. Eq and Tren give me terrible insomnia as well I'm actually still waiting for Eq to clear out my system, every night I take 50mg of Unisom (much better than diphenhydramine) to knock out. Goes to show you everybody is different. 19NORs are not for me.


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[Androman]

If all goes good with you then I'll be willing to try this. Until then you're the guinea pig lol.


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[Bouncer]

I'm not saying test makes me feel like shit, just the opposite it makes me feel great. Only once I go up to a certain dose the sides like 24/7 agressive behavior, sleep trouble etc.. start to happen.

You can actually tell when I'm running a test only cycle by my posts. I'm an asshole. But when I cut the test with a bit of deca I mellow out a bit.

[Chicken]

Another reason I'm trying this. I've only ever used mainly test. I just want to see if there is some crazy change or a "shock" to my body to switch drug ratios so drastically for the first time.

Bouncer the only time iv ever had problems has been dropping or adding androgens or changing different esters. I only run low test with hi every thing else now and in my openion I would drop the test to about 280 from ur current 500 (in one week)then drop out 50 a week till none. U will be able to gage what's going on pretty easy and 280 is a lot of test. (I know some of u r like wtf?) 280 is a shit ton of test 2 me now. On ur other page I stated how I dropped out my test in a cycle, I got in my logs and the first time I used low t with an androgen was while I was cruzing on 160 test e and got tendonitas (medialepicondialitis to b exact) and coupled npp at 200 a week to over come the injury quicker. Still worked legs and core but could not belive how fantastic nandrolone actually was it was the first time I could c an androgen for what it was beacuse I had polluted them with 2 much test. It is much like tren when u get the test down, not quite as sharp but close. It was the next cycle as described on the other page I dropped mid cycle, and never looked back. Just my openion

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[Bouncer]

Bouncer the only time iv ever had problems has been dropping or adding androgens or changing different esters. I only run low test with hi every thing else now and in my openion I would drop the test to about 280 from ur current 500 (in one week)then drop out 50 a week till none. U will be able to gage what's going on pretty easy and 280 is a lot of test. (I know some of u r like wtf?) 280 is a shit ton of test 2 me now. On ur other page I stated how I dropped out my test in a cycle, I got in my logs and the first time I used low t with an androgen was while I was cruzing on 160 test e and got tendonitas (medialepicondialitis to b exact) and coupled npp at 200 a week to over come the injury quicker. Still worked legs and core but could not belive how fantastic nandrolone actually was it was the first time I could c an androgen for what it was beacuse I had polluted them with 2 much test. It is much like tren when u get the test down, not quite as sharp but close. It was the next cycle as described on the other page I dropped mid cycle, and never looked back. Just my openion

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Good post. Alright I'll give that a try. You didn't experience any drop in sex drive?

[rado]

Good post. Alright I'll give that a try. You didn't experience any drop in sex drive?

You see this is where I disagree. When I've had test levels in the ranges of 100 to 400, which is normal for me when I'm really off everything...my sex drive is as strong as if I were on test, here's what differs FOR ME between the lower number to relatively 4000 range mark, which I just recently had.


The ONLY difference was that I wanted her more; like everyday...shit gets old, trust me.

When it's in the lower numbers, everything is the same, except I'm ok if it's less frequent, and she's fine with that too.

[Chicken]

Lol, I support you 100% and if you think that's best then so be it. But Man I have no idea how you can run nandrolone. Deca's been proven to make your penis smaller (atleast in my experience). My theory is that Dihydronandrolone attaches to the receptors that DHT attach to; The scalp, penis, prostate etc. that's why people say it's so "mild" in terms of prostate growth and hair loss etc aka "androgenic side effects", and if you didn't know DHT is what gives you that raging sturdy libido that you can probably knock down a brick house with..anyways the nandrolone molecule is also very identical to the progesterone molecule (kinda like Test and Estro) did you know that they give progesterone injections to serial rapists in prison, this is known as chemical castration. Even pregnant women produce nandrolone naturally. PREGNANT, WOMEN. You can even google it, people who are more open to homosexuality have higher levels of progesterone. I honestly think deca is pure shit. You can just take more Testosterone (you know, the male hormone), or you can throw in some Dbol and all you have to do is dial on your AI and maybe some Proviron for SHBG. Nandrolone makes my dick shrink and nipples flare up like a woman, but I will admit I feel great on it, moodwise, life does feel good.

This was in no way trying to get you not to do it. I'm just explaining why I hate nandrolone and will always stay away from it. But I'm interested to see if Test is really the reason for intensifying the sides of deca.


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Test is the sides from nandrolone save deca dick if ur susceptible to it. Nandrolone is allmost as fantastic as tren imo damn near the hardning more mass full and defined. Have u ever tryed it in a way u could actually c what it does 4 if it is buried under 300 to 700 migs of t (or more???) all one can do is give it an unfair judgment, to much test denigrates the beauty of all androgens . And eq, mast, tren, var, tball, methelstin, methelmast (and more) all have verry unique differences tho I could not CLEARLY c them untill I got to much test out of the way. Androgens other than test complement each other test made them dirty or hard, I don't know how 2 describe just shitty. By the way, if something made my dick soft I'd hate that shit too. But 4 me and a lot of others deca is a beautiful powerful steroid and completely unique. Nandrolone is like tren set apart, and if one factors in no sides from deca if I had to choose one 4 the rest of my life, nandrolone hands down. Just the thought of no tren 4 the rest of my life was fucking terrable, glad I don't have 2 choose.

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[Chicken]

Good post. Alright I'll give that a try. You didn't experience any drop in sex drive?

Ok fuck it, Drop in sex drive no, when I go above 600 deca on 170 t my dick does not get that super brick like hardness it gets when on tren or var, but I am hard and I fuck every day sometimes 3 or 4 times. Also I have to say I'm 44 and sex is better now than it has ever been, it's allways been good I have 5 children ages 23 to 10 not that that proves any thing but I think iv probably( nop sure iv sexually over achieved throughout my life) could b my ego but, NOPE. Maby this does prove something, one of my children was a deproprava kid ( it's a birth control implant) and another kid is a pill kid, my wife did not forget to take her pill, we have allways loved on each other a lot. Way a lot. Maby it's why Nandrolone works with me?
But no drop in drive, but there is a difference Bouncer. But as long as it all works and my wife is good I'm good. But it's not like tren with test.


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[Chicken]

Lol, I support you 100% and if you think that's best then so be it. But Man I have no idea how you can run nandrolone. Deca's been proven to make your penis smaller (atleast in my experience). My theory is that Dihydronandrolone attaches to the receptors that DHT attach to; The scalp, penis, prostate etc. that's why people say it's so "mild" in terms of prostate growth and hair loss etc aka "androgenic side effects", and if you didn't know DHT is what gives you that raging sturdy libido that you can probably knock down a brick house with..anyways the nandrolone molecule is also very identical to the progesterone molecule (kinda like Test and Estro) did you know that they give progesterone injections to serial rapists in prison, this is known as chemical castration. Even pregnant women produce nandrolone naturally. PREGNANT, WOMEN. You can even google it, people who are more open to homosexuality have higher levels of progesterone. I honestly think deca is pure shit. You can just take more Testosterone (you know, the male hormone), or you can throw in some Dbol and all you have to do is dial on your AI and maybe some Proviron for SHBG. Nandrolone makes my dick shrink and nipples flare up like a woman, but I will admit I feel great on it, moodwise, life does feel good.

This was in no way trying to get you not to do it. I'm just explaining why I hate nandrolone and will always stay away from it. But I'm interested to see if Test is really the reason for intensifying the sides of deca.


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I over looked the part where u said pregnant women produce nandrolone naturaly, men do too. It's produced in our male body's just like testosterone only in small amounts and usually after strenuous events.

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