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  • #61
    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Ok guys, just in case progesterone becomes a problem I want to be ready. I have always in the past either run progesterone drugs like deca or tren very low dose or avoided them all together because i'm sensitive to it. nips puff up within a few days on tren.

    with that said, what is the best drug to control progesterone if it becomes a problem? I've heard of caber and dostinex? i know absolutely nothing about them. i remember bori saying prami is bad because it acts like an anti depressant or some shit. i dont want that if true. what is the typical dose and where would i find them? i'm assuming the same place i get my adex would carry it but i've never paid attention because i never had a worry of high progesterone.

    thanks
    Run Caber and an AI..

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    • #62
      If prolactin is an issue of concern, it can cause your nipples to ache and completely shut down your erection function if too high. Reasons for getting caber. You will be banging your girlfriend more than ever

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      • #63
        I think dosages of caber are like 0.5 mg eod.

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        • #64
          I always like to error on the side of caution and not take drugs I don't need. I would have caber on hand but wouldn't run it unless there is a need for it.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BowHunter View Post
            I think dosages of caber are like 0.5 mg eod.
            Caber can be ran .25mg E3d EOD is to much

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            • #66
              I'm gonna avoid caber if possible and test the theory that progesterone needs estrogen to cause a problem. Again, I can always cancel this whole experiment the second I feel sides so I'm not that worried. I'm actually assuming I am going to cancel it.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                I'm gonna avoid caber if possible and test the theory that progesterone needs estrogen to cause a problem. Again, I can always cancel this whole experiment the second I feel sides so I'm not that worried. I'm actually assuming I am going to cancel it.
                Are you running Adex?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                  Are you running Adex?

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                  Yea, and the first thing I'll do if I feel the slightest side is bump the adex. If that fails to stop it than we know the theory of progesterone needing estrogen is bullshit.

                  At that point I'll lower the deca, raise the test, and stay on adex.

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                  • #69
                    Imbalance between estrogen and progesterone is what leads to gynecomastia. With that being said if you are taking Adex then you might not experience any progesterone sides

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                      Imbalance between estrogen and progesterone is what leads to gynecomastia. With that being said if you are taking Adex then you might not experience any progesterone sides

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                      Yea I'm just saying that some theorize that there is no such thing as "progesterone gyno" without estrogen. If I bump adex way up and still get sides I say fuck that theory. :D

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                        Wtf are you talking about.. he is doing Deca not Tren and you must of got some shitty ass caber because it works like a charm

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                        Works the same for eather 19 nor, except one can go higher with the deca migs, way higher . I'll say it agan caber is a wast of money/not needed at all unless u just like taking stuff that messes with ur bran chemistry 4 no reason. But there r the posative sexual sides, I was curious found out, don't need it, agan imo.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Chicken View Post
                          Works the same for eather 19 nor, except one can go higher with the deca migs, way higher . I'll say it agan caber is a wast of money/not needed at all unless u just like taking stuff that messes with ur bran chemistry 4 no reason. But there r the posative sexual sides, I was curious found out, don't need it, agan imo.

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                          So you don't like shagging 4x a day? And believe me if you have a prolactin issue you are going to want the detonix.. I don't need it when running NPP, but I don't take my chances with Tren [emoji848][emoji848]

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                            So you don't like shagging 4x a day? And believe me if you have a prolactin issue you are going to want the detonix.. I don't need it when running NPP, but I don't take my chances with Tren [emoji848][emoji848]

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                            You don't fuck 4 times a day you lying faggot. My sex drive is nuts and I never fucked 4 times in a day in my life. I've fucked 3 times in a day and that is a bitch because I gotta shower after sex. I can't be walking around with dried up sex juice all over me. It's too much hassle and if you were fucken your girl right she should be absolutely raw after the second fuck of the day.

                            If she can take 4 fucks a day you ain't doing your job. Mine would be in the hospital after 4. Boom! :D

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                              Yea I'm just saying that some theorize that there is no such thing as "progesterone gyno" without estrogen. If I bump adex way up and still get sides I say fuck that theory. :D
                              Again, since nandrolone does have estrogenic activity, that alone may cause estrogen related sides. a-dex won't even touch that since it lowers estrogen via inhibition of aromatase. If you prove susceptable to estrogenic sides with deca, the only fix may be to stop the deca.

                              Rather then bump the dosage of a-dex (which won't work if I'm right) I would try the caber at that point and see if the symptoms clear up. If they do, that is evidence for progesterone causing gyno.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by BowHunter View Post
                                Again, since nandrolone does have estrogenic activity, that alone may cause estrogen related sides. a-dex won't even touch that since it lowers estrogen via inhibition of aromatase. If you prove susceptable to estrogenic sides with deca, the only fix may be to stop the deca.

                                Rather then bump the dosage of a-dex (which won't work if I'm right) I would try the caber at that point and see if the symptoms clear up. If they do, that is evidence for progesterone causing gyno.
                                You keep saying that but you don't have any proof. How do you know deca doesn't convert to estrogen via aromatise the same way testosterone does?

                                And yes adex would help even if you were right. It would lower estrogen conversion from test even further thus giving a lower total estrogen level and allowing more leeway and less chance of gyno for this magical estrogen from deca that doesn't aromatize that you keep talking about. Lol

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