Bouncers Deca Only Cycle Log

[BowHunter]

Nothing magical about it; just simple chemistry. I gave you a ton of references (one from pubmed and more than a dozen in the long article I posted) that lend credence to the theory. Test after test has shown that nandrolone has a weaker binding constant for aromatase than test by at least an order of magnitude. Any test present will preferentially bind. Yet, deca aromatizes at half the rate of test. How is that possible if the binding constant for aromatase is more than 10 times less? There has to be another mechanism at play.

It is actually your theory (and that of many others) that progesterone and/or prolactin can cause gyno even in the absence of estrogen that lacks any proof. Find me some articles that support your theory. I found some that support mine.

I was saying that a-dex wouldn't touch the estro effects from deca. Yes of course it will stop the aromatization of the test but you are going to have much more deca present than test, right?

If you insist on being a guinea pig, have an open mind. Your previous experience with tren gyno supports my theory as well. More a-dex didn't help. Would caber have helped? I don't know.

I guess my point is: If you really want to provide support for your theory that progesterone or prolactin causes gyno, you would have that opportunity if you started to experience gyno symptoms. If caber, a progesterone/prolactin inhibitor, relieves the symptoms, that is evidence you are right.

[boricuarage79]

You don't fuck 4 times a day you lying faggot. My sex drive is nuts and I never fucked 4 times in a day in my life. I've fucked 3 times in a day and that is a bitch because I gotta shower after sex. I can't be walking around with dried up sex juice all over me. It's too much hassle and if you were fucken your girl right she should be absolutely raw after the second fuck of the day.

If she can take 4 fucks a day you ain't doing your job. Mine would be in the hospital after 4. Boom! :D

Your such a moron sometimes Bouncer... You can fuck as many times a day if you want.. A woman can have multiply orgasm's and so can a man...
Do you have a drone on me and checking up how many times I'm fucking a day ya cunt.. Stfu and speak for yourself...
Good luck with the Deca Dick ya hoe

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[Bouncer]

Well I'm pulling the plug on this one already lol. Nips are throbbing right now because I bumped up the deca when I did my shot 2 days ago. Fuck that. My body did the same thing with tren. I'm just super sensitive to any sort of progestin.

What else should I stack with test besides deca. Haven't done masteron in awhile, I loved that in combo with test, the 2 worked great together. I'm also willing to give EQ a chance again. Didn't notice much the first time but I think my dose was only like 300mgs a week. Give me suggestions. Needs to be injectable, I'm done with orals aside from var. Can't be a steroid that has any progesterone activity. Primo I feel is likely to be underdosed from anywhere so I have a hard time trusting it.

Any possible gyno issues with eq? I know masteron is a safe bet but I think eq is far more anabolic correct?

[Bouncer]

I think I'm gonna run something like:

Test E 500mgs E5D
Mast E 300mgs E5D
GH 3.3iu ED

[boricuarage79]

I think I'm gonna run:

Test E 500mgs E5D
Mast E 300mgs E5D

I can't speak for EQ... I know Andro was doing EQ and he had insomnia... Something we don't want.. Masteron sounds hella good and you know it's synergentic with everything...
I honestly can't fuck with orals anymore... not even the Var because it feels like I'm taking an antidepressant and I have a history with those.. kind of fucks my head up in a way..even tho it might not be the Var ., but anyways....
You can give NPP a go..its milder and hits faster than Deca and if you don't like it you can always drop it... but you have to inject ED or EOD

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[Bouncer]

I can't speak for EQ... I know Andro was doing EQ and he had insomnia... Something we don't want.. Masteron sounds hella good and you know it's synergentic with everything...
I honestly can't fuck with orals anymore... not even the Var because it feels like I'm taking an antidepressant and I have a history with those.. kind of fucks my head up in a way..even tho it might not be the Var ., but anyways....
You can give NPP a go..its milder and hits faster than Deca and if you don't like it you can always drop it... but you have to inject ED or EOD

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Yea I hear ya. But honestly man I just feel like anything that has anything to do with progesterone my body just fucken hates so I'm gonna avoid npp. It's ashame because I do like deca in terms of being able to run less test and still make gains but progesterone just always comes back to haunt me.

[boricuarage79]

Yea I hear ya. But honestly man I just feel like anything that has anything to do with progesterone my body just fucken hates so I'm gonna avoid npp. It's ashame because I do like deca in terms of being able to run less test and still make gains but progesterone just always comes back to haunt me.

Then stick to Mast and Test.. I mean what else do you need?.. you have test hgh and masteron... unless you want to take slin to look like a monster then those compounds are enough... matter a fact if you gona stay on GH for a long time then you might as well add a low dose of slin so you don't become insulin resistance... you should really check your BG every now and then... those monitors are very inexpensive

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[Bouncer]

Then stick to Mast and Test.. I mean what else do you need?.. you have test hgh and masteron... unless you want to take slin to look like a monster then those compounds are enough... matter a fact if you gona stay on GH for a long time then you might as well add a low dose of slin so you don't become insulin resistance... you should really check your BG every now and then... those monitors are very inexpensive

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I don't think there is any danger with only 3.3iu GH?

[lipripper]

Well I'm pulling the plug on this one already lol. Nips are throbbing right now because I bumped up the deca when I did my shot 2 days ago. Fuck that. My body did the same thing with tren. I'm just super sensitive to any sort of progestin.

What else should I stack with test besides deca. Haven't done masteron in awhile, I loved that in combo with test, the 2 worked great together. I'm also willing to give EQ a chance again. Didn't notice much the first time but I think my dose was only like 300mgs a week. Give me suggestions. Needs to be injectable, I'm done with orals aside from var. Can't be a steroid that has any progesterone activity. Primo I feel is likely to be underdosed from anywhere so I have a hard time trusting it.

Any possible gyno issues with eq? I know masteron is a safe bet but I think eq is far more anabolic correct?

That was quick:rofl:

[boricuarage79]

I don't think there is any danger with only 3.3iu GH?

Oh I thought you was taking 5IU of the Ansomones...
Just had a Dejavu

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[Chicken]

Yea I hear ya. But honestly man I just feel like anything that has anything to do with progesterone my body just fucken hates so I'm gonna avoid npp. It's ashame because I do like deca in terms of being able to run less test and still make gains but progesterone just always comes back to haunt me.

If u were running 500 t last week it's not dropped enouph to gage ones body's response accurately to any thing else (ur still at a tremendous t dose with compounding weeks). I thought the same as u Bouncer but once my t went down and stablized no problems ( I'm at 600 deca and around 200 t I took a half an anastrazol yday first in 10 days an I'm perfact). I dont blame u 4 scraping the idea of no t but low t is where it is at, 4 people that r gyno prone. Im not blowing smoke just hang in there i would bet every thing ur problems are to much test.
BowHunter I did really enjoy the long article but every where on the net says deca aromitizes at 20% the ratio of t (everywhere), iv been looking 4 it in pier reviewed medical literature and I'm sure it will turn up or what is accurate will. I question the integrity of the article beacuse of the part where the guy says, "yours truly," solved a conundrum which has been studyed 4 50 plus years by the most educated people in that field. I'm not trying 2 knock it and it's formated in bibliographic style and looks authentic , but where did it come from? Is it pier reviewed? Was it published in medical criteria? This is how truth is found and thank u for the time u have spent 4 any one can c u have taken time and desire to know what is accurate.

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[Bouncer]

If u were running 500 t last week it's not dropped enouph to gage ones body's response accurately to any thing else (ur still at a tremendous t dose with compounding weeks). I thought the same as u Bouncer but once my t went down and stablized no problems ( I'm at 600 deca and around 200 t I took a half an anastrazol yday first in 10 days an I'm perfact). I dont blame u 4 scraping the idea of no t but low t is where it is at, 4 people that r gyno prone. Im not blowing smoke just hang in there i would bet every thing ur problems are to much test.
BowHunter I did really enjoy the long article but every where on the net says deca aromitizes at 20% the ratio of t (everywhere), iv been looking 4 it in pier reviewed medical literature and I'm sure it will turn up or what is accurate will. I question the integrity of the article beacuse of the part where the guy says, "yours truly," solved a conundrum which has been studyed 4 50 plus years by the most educated people in that field. I'm not trying 2 knock it and it's formated in bibliographic style and looks authentic , but where did it come from? Is it pier reviewed? Was it published in medical criteria? This is how truth is found and thank u for the time u have spent 4 any one can c u have taken time and desire to know what is accurate.

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Possibly right but I cannot take the risk of getting gyno. I had it once before and I had to go on extreme letro protocol to get rid of it. Was a month of hell. Test has always been in all my cycles. Different doses never a problem. Add in a progesterone type steroid and the issues begin almost immediately. It's just not for me. I can run low dose deca for joints but when I increase a bit the mess starts regardless of adex dose.

[BowHunter]

Well I'm pulling the plug on this one already lol. Nips are throbbing right now because I bumped up the deca when I did my shot 2 days ago. Fuck that. My body did the same thing with tren. I'm just super sensitive to any sort of progestin.

What else should I stack with test besides deca. Haven't done masteron in awhile, I loved that in combo with test, the 2 worked great together. I'm also willing to give EQ a chance again. Didn't notice much the first time but I think my dose was only like 300mgs a week. Give me suggestions. Needs to be injectable, I'm done with orals aside from var. Can't be a steroid that has any progesterone activity. Primo I feel is likely to be underdosed from anywhere so I have a hard time trusting it.

Any possible gyno issues with eq? I know masteron is a safe bet but I think eq is far more anabolic correct?

Damn, I don't blame you. Gyno is scary shit. You should have had the caber on hand before starting the experiment though. Then you could have taken a dose or two and seen if the nip sensitivity went away.

[Bouncer]

I didn't even really start the experiment. I simply upped the deca slightly. Lol

[Chicken]

Well I'm pulling the plug on this one already lol. Nips are throbbing right now because I bumped up the deca when I did my shot 2 days ago. Fuck that. My body did the same thing with tren. I'm just super sensitive to any sort of progestin.

What else should I stack with test besides deca. Haven't done masteron in awhile, I loved that in combo with test, the 2 worked great together. I'm also willing to give EQ a chance again. Didn't notice much the first time but I think my dose was only like 300mgs a week. Give me suggestions. Needs to be injectable, I'm done with orals aside from var. Can't be a steroid that has any progesterone activity. Primo I feel is likely to be underdosed from anywhere so I have a hard time trusting it.

Any possible gyno issues with eq? I know masteron is a safe bet but I think eq is far more anabolic correct?

Orals are induced through different pathways than injectable s and the two work synergistic ly together I have an article but it's lengthy. Tball superdrol var primo no estro there r more. Superdrol is mastorone with 17 methalition added And the anabolic ratio is nice though it's hard on liver values. Never been as full as with methelmast aka superdrol, it shoves glycogen into muscle cells at an astonishing rate and is verry carb dependant.
I'll say agan both 19 nor are superior one just has to understand their self and these excellent compounds. Lastly just get the t out of the picture just once ( TRT dose) so one can see the 19 nors for what they r. Best 2 u all.

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