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I think we should forget the injecting for now. lol, passing out is a result of main-lining the gear into a vein, something you definetly don't want to do. hence why we aspirate the needle before injecting.Originally posted by pjg57
What would make you pass out? What kind of problems occur? Getting an infection?
Here is your answer in a nutshell. If you want to do that cycle go ahead and do it. some people learn better from experience. we are telling you, you won't get much from a 14 day cycle. consider most cycles last 8-12 weeks. oral only cylces last usually about 4-8 weeks, though 9 out of 10 people who decide to do steroids will put an injectable in there. you will get stronger from the anavar. I have no idea what the other substance is so I can't give advice on it. I don't think your gains will go away because I don't think you will have any gains. I could be wrong but that is why I told you to try it. you will definelty get a better pump for the two weeks.
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i wouldn't waste your money. the anabolics in questions are way too expensive for that. all you're going to get is that "burst" of energy i was telling you about. a "pump" if you will at the gym. as soon as you stop, the pump will be gone. but as stated above, if you got money to burn... you could go ahead and try it to get a "taste" of the darkside :)Originally posted by pjg57
Should I try and obtain double the quantity and take it for 4 weeks?
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i was kinda stating the worst-case scenario about passing out. odds are in your favor that you'll be OK. you might nick a vein or somethng and bleed a little, but that's almost harmless. as for pain, there is none really. pinching yourself hurts more in my opinion. if you're leary aobut needles, get some insulin syringes and just practice sticking yourself. don't plunge anything though. then work your way to to bigger needles.Originally posted by pjg57
What would make you pass out? What kind of problems occur? Getting an infection?
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the more i think about this particular cycle; considering your currents stats... i'm thinking you might as well give it a shot just to feel the "pump" to see what it's like. you really only have enough for about 8 days though. you'll have extra Anavar left over too. personally, i would hate to waste such a good product. it's gonna take your body a week just to start (maybe start) to feel it. if you're dead-set on trying this; run your cycle as follows. you'll have to break up your tablets here and there to get the desired amount. also, take your doses divided up evenly throughout the day as i stated above.
Andriol - 300mg/day (100mg, 3 times a day) - for 8 days
Anavar - 30mg/day - for 10 days
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Test - 500mg/wk (10 weeks)
Deca - 200mg/wk (10 weeks)
Anavar - 25mg/day (until gone)
Andriol - 120mg/day (until gone)
i would leave out the Andriol and save it for later as you don't have much of it to do anything with to make it worth while. or you can start it at 120-280mg/day until it's used up. since your depot test is going to take about 3 weeks to kick in, the andriol will act as a good jump-start for the cycle.
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No - for your goals (strength - not mass) the Oxandrolone (Anavar) goes very well with the Andriol. also, these two steroids are consistently suggested for those your age as being "safe, with little to no side effects at ll". if you had to pick two orals that go great together; what you have is perfect. give it a short run for the 10-12 days and let us know how it went. remember to eat good and train hard :)Originally posted by pjg57
Is there a scenerio where another oral could be added in some way to the anavar and anibol to positive effect?
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it mostly depends on your connections for price. personally, i don't think any oral-only cycle is cost-effective. for your goals, what you have is probably the best choice, though expensive as all hell. now if you wanted some quick bulk and didn't mind the water-retention, you could get some dbol really cheap... but again, as soon as you stop, everything will disappear more or less. iw ould say to stick with what you have (try to get more if you can) and run a short oral cycle of it. good strength gains, not much bulk, lower side effects compaired to other AS, and most importantly, a very good combination considering your age and experience. you picked probably the two top choices for where you're at right now and your goals... you just really need to get a bit more is all... enough for at least 4 weeks or so.Originally posted by pjg57
Last question... I promise ...is there a reasonable cost oral cycle that you can reccommend. 46yrs, 250 lbs, 6'6", lifting 4-5 years, 15-18% bf. You've been great and I appreciate your help.
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