How liver toxic is M-1-T?

[spidey]

Originally posted by Cogar
To paraphrase the thread, he started taking M 1-T on Dec. 26. The values are in the process of going where you would expect them to go. ;) The same member posted another thread about his recovery from a previous cycle (link). Everything went OK. He is a medical lab tech of some sort and can have as many tests as he wants.

So his liver values are already trending up after less then one week of use? I wonder how they will be after 2 or 3 weeks or longer.

[Cogar]

Originally posted by spidey
So his liver values are already trending up after less then one week of use? I wonder how they will be after 2 or 3 weeks or longer.

I do not not have sufficient medical background to make a good assessment, but let me quote supersoldier on his third day (of five so far): "As far as the liver is concerned, levels are elevated but only slightly. My liver enzymes were WAY higher than this on T1-Pro, but that was a couple of weeks into my first cycle."

[Skywalker]

summary: basically he is experiencing the expected sides, nothign crazy, and plans to bump the dose up.

[Mudge]

I have a hard time believing he could achieve a fatty liver in only 4 weeks, but I dont know, I'm not a liver doctor.

With people running anadrol at 150-300mg for 6 months to 3 years, it would seem odd that M1T is so horrible at 20-40mg for only 4 weeks, hmm.

My own assumption was genetic predisposition. My friend who doesn't drink hardly ever in her life, has a fatty liver at the age of 29, which her mother died of in her mid 60s without being a drinker.

[Mudge]

Not to belittle such a persons situation of course, but I think it is unrealistic to think 4 weeks of anything as such would cause the entire issue.

Good luck to him...

[prolangtum]

I think people are overworrying, just because liver enzymes are up does not mean your doing damage to your liver. Also, If people got blood work done while on dbol, winny, or anadrol, they would find much the same results.

[spidey]

Originally posted by prolangtum
I think people are overworrying, just because liver enzymes are up does not mean your doing damage to your liver. Also, If people got blood work done while on dbol, winny, or anadrol, they would find much the same results.

No, of course not. But, high liver enzyme values do indicate a stressed liver. It depends on how high they go as to the risk of real damage. Some are much worse than others. I know people who have taken dbol for much longer than 8 weeks with only a mild elevation of liver enzymes that returned to normal after the stopped using it. On the other hand, miberolone was rumored to be so liver toxic that only tiny doses could be tolerated for no more than 2 weeks without severly elevated liver enzymes (one of the big reasons it fell out of favor).

All I am saying is that M-1-T is an unknown. It is still too new and little if any toxicity data exists. Given that some 17-AAS are extremely liver toxic (and some are not), it would seem prudent to get liver values checked every 2 weeks while using it.