Long term use?

[ROCKETW19]

Im running 150mg a week and dont plan on coming off. Occasionally (once of twice per year) Im going to up my dose to 250mg and add another mild compound. Will I be fine long term you think? What is considered crazy doses?

yes you will most likley be fine. My HRT doc has me on 150 mgs per week and i am at high end of test scale. this will be his dose forever scripted to me unless something crazy happens.

crazy dose IMO is 1000mgs or more of a few compounds. no need for that type of shit unless you are gonna get on stage.

I think you have great plan and i am gonna do the same but also add GH. I was doing 5 ius per day and IGF levels were insane so Doc asked me to drop to 2ius so I dropped to 2.5 per day should keep me healthy wont burn fat off or anything but I get all health bennys from it.

[ROCKETW19]

Thinking about staying on for about 8 months (250mg every 5 days). Already been on for 6 months. It's the lowest dose I have ever ran before. Always 500+ per week in the past. Along with other compounds.

Any issues with running nolva for long periods?

never heard of any bad side from nolva long periods. I have read what B said it help one of the cholesterols so that is a plus,lol

[vinnie1938]

regular bloodwork my brother... if it comes back with high levels then you will be told to come off for a while. eat clean, dont drink etc. its a lifestyle now and not just another juicer cycle.

Thanx man :)

[vinnie1938]

i would say its wise to run nolv with all your cycles to prevent estrogen type gyno.

Yea man, thanx B :) I was thinking the same thing...except wondering about AI instead of nolva. What do you think? Could prevent gyno in it's root by lowering estro in the first plade but harsher on lipids then nolva, except maybe aromasin?!
What is your oppinion on nolva hindering gains through lowering IGF-1!?

One question about compounds used...besides test of course I like equipose verry much. So if I would to shoot for 400-500 per week, whould there be any real difference between:
1. 500 test per week
2. 250 test + 200 equipose(recommendation is min. 400 per week, though I don't really buy it)

[Bouncer]

Yea man, thanx B :) I was thinking the same thing...except wondering about AI instead of nolva. What do you think? Could prevent gyno in it's root by lowering estro in the first plade but harsher on lipids then nolva, except maybe aromasin?!
What is your oppinion on nolva hindering gains through lowering IGF-1!?

One question about compounds used...besides test of course I like equipose verry much. So if I would to shoot for 400-500 per week, whould there be any real difference between:
1. 500 test per week
2. 250 test + 200 equipose(recommendation is min. 400 per week, though I don't really buy it)

i dont like running an AI just to run an AI. they will take away from your gains much more then nolv with so dont worry about the igf thing.

dont really get your last question.

[vinnie1938]

Ok, but what about bloat, high bp?! If AI is used, both can be managed, in case of nolva..it does nothing for lowering estro. I know, read about it...you like estro bloat and I agree, some is needed, but too much? So what, lower test dosage maybe?

Last question...i'm shooting for like 500g test per week, so what do you think would be the difference between that two options? So, solo test or test+eq!? Whole test in both cases around 500/w.

[Bouncer]

Ok, but what about bloat, high bp?! If AI is used, both can be managed, in case of nolva..it does nothing for lowering estro. I know, read about it...you like estro bloat and I agree, some is needed, but too much? So what, lower test dosage maybe?

Last question...i'm shooting for like 500g test per week, so what do you think would be the difference between that two options? So, solo test or test+eq!? Whole test in both cases around 500/w.

it can be managed with diet. im telling you if you are trying to get bigger and add muscle you dont want an AI.

eat clean cals with 500mg test and you will like the results.

200mg eq is worthless.

[vinnie1938]

ok, I got you :) i thought so about eq..what to you think about it? What about cycle with more eq then test?? Say 250 test and 400eq?

[ROCKETW19]

it can be managed with diet. im telling you if you are trying to get bigger and add muscle you dont want an AI.

eat clean cals with 500mg test and you will like the results.

200mg eq is worthless.

yup agreed

[ROCKETW19]

ok, I got you :) i thought so about eq..what to you think about it? What about cycle with more eq then test?? Say 250 test and 400eq?

I really used to like EQ alot. it made my veins pop out even with not so good BF%. lean mass with increased cardio.

250 test and 400 EQ wouldnt be a real big cycle remember EQ is very very mild MG vs MG to say test. then you add that it is a lean mild gainer not such a good cycle depending what you are after. if you are doing this to say compete in a sport where you need cardio and weight limits EQ is a great drug but for just looks I do not think you will like it compared to 500 mgs test.

One thing I did many yrs ago was expermint and i tried everything you were not suposed to do including no PCT after cycle,lol that sucked but I know alot more by it. you should expermint also if you tyhink you have a good idea.

[jack tors]

AI is fine...

[vinnie1938]

I really used to like EQ alot. it made my veins pop out even with not so good BF%. lean mass with increased cardio.

250 test and 400 EQ wouldnt be a real big cycle remember EQ is very very mild MG vs MG to say test. then you add that it is a lean mild gainer not such a good cycle depending what you are after. if you are doing this to say compete in a sport where you need cardio and weight limits EQ is a great drug but for just looks I do not think you will like it compared to 500 mgs test.

One thing I did many yrs ago was expermint and i tried everything you were not suposed to do including no PCT after cycle,lol that sucked but I know alot more by it. you should expermint also if you tyhink you have a good idea.

I get it...I liked the vascularity on eq also and what's the most interesting, my last two cycles were:

1. 500mg test enanthate for 10weeks (1. week frontloaded 750mg test)
2. 500mg test enanthate for 10weeks, 400mg eq for 12 weeks + 2weeks test prop at the end

In the second option,no problems what so ever, in the first option, that was my last cycle, gyno in 3. week. So could it be related with eq somehow lowering estro?!?

[jack tors]

EQ is going to raise your hematocrit levels (increased RBC production). High hematocrit levels gives you thick blood which puts you at risk for strokes. I know guys who are paroid and take 81mgs of aspirin along with it. Dont think its smart if your doing TRT. Test all year round. Test will raise hematocrit levels but supposdily nothing close to anadrol or EQ. Regular blood work will be required anyway.



Unless your a cyclist or some other aerobic athlete and you want to increase your VO2max. BB'lders could give 2 fucks. the increased RBC's in your body will help oxygen transfer and endurance.

[vinnie1938]

EQ is going to raise your hematocrit levels (increased RBC production). High hematocrit levels gives you thick blood which puts you at risk for strokes. I know guys who are paroid and take 81mgs of aspirin along with it. Dont think its smart if your doing TRT. Test all year round. Test will raise hematocrit levels but supposdily nothing close to anadrol or EQ. Regular blood work will be required anyway.



Unless your a cyclist or some other aerobic athlete and you want to increase your VO2max. BB'lders could give 2 fucks. the increased RBC's in your body will help oxygen transfer and endurance.

Thanx!