"Big" Dan Hill - Drugs VS Natty

[Bouncer]

Still blows me away. Yes, it looks like he gave up not only AAS but training as well but there's something weird in this for me mentally. I'd like to think that I'm simply better physically then the average shmuck on the street but the truth is, without the gym, diet, and AAS.. I could be just the average schmuck I tend to look down upon. It's all been a lie! :D

how anyone could do this on purpose and live with themselves boggles my mind. Props I guess for being ok with looking like that..

I understand not wanting to be a bodybuilder anymore in terms of health or being burn out etc.. but to completly give up training and even diet just doesn't compute. Rado would say it's because I'm mentally weak but if being mentally weak means being ok with looking like this guys after pics then I dont want to be mentally strong.. I never want to lose my urge and desire to look good.

[chuckz28]

Yeah crazy. At least he didn't become a fat ass though.

[Bouncer]

Yeah crazy. At least he didn't become a fat ass though.

i think that may just be a genetic thing. in other words i dont think he makes any effort one way or another with diet choice etc.. look like he just eats when he's hungry.

[StanG]

Another case in point that similar,,,KEVIN LEVRONE.

Exactly who I thought of. Both are prime examples of genetics. Look how they respond to steroids. Their results are atypical to be sure. Amazing the ability to transform one's self as Levrone can and apparently this guy can as well. Not everyone can do this and its a good example of how people respond differently to aas & the role genetics plays in this game.

[rado]

You're also not taking into account(like many other things)that his body became accustomed to the drugs doing all the work. Years of abuse, excessive amounts, etc...all of that more than likely took a huge toll on the body that when he came off, well now you see what he looks like. What if his health was so serious that he just can't even take test?!?! You don't know his situation or life issues. I give major props for anyone to have such confidence after looking like a stud to post pics like that, to carry on with his normal life and live free of issues....bravo to him.

[Bouncer]

His health was such an issue that he also had to stop lifting?

[MattG]

If my health was totally fucked, i guess i'd have to stop what im doing...but i would still hit the gym at least 3-4 times a week and make a decent effort to look like a muscular "natty". No way could i handle doing what he did. Being a big bastard to being a scrawny average joe would destroy me mentally. I could give up the drugs, but never the lifestyle

[jack tors]

sometimes peoples priorities in life change too... bb'lding isnt exactly a great way to make a living and its time consuming. who knows...

I see this all the time in the local gyms. guy i used to train with won pro card did several shows. he looked great. Now he doesnt even go to the gym its been 2 years. It seems for some of these guys its ALL or NONE like an addict. they push the steriod use to the body's limit train 3 times a day all of a sudden stop and move on

[Bouncer]

sometimes peoples priorities in life change too... bb'lding isnt exactly a great way to make a living and its time consuming. who knows...

I see this all the time in the local gyms. guy i used to train with won pro card did several shows. he looked great. Now he doesnt even go to the gym its been 2 years. It seems for some of these guys its ALL or NONE like an addict. they push the steriod use to the body's limit train 3 times a day all of a sudden stop and move on

good point. I've seen this over my years at various gyms as well.

maybe they go all out and come to some conclusion that they will never be on the front of a mag? i dunno.

i can never understand that because I train for different reasons. I train so that I can live with myself. i train to make myself feel good.

[rado]

sometimes peoples priorities in life change too... bb'lding isnt exactly a great way to make a living and its time consuming. who knows...

I see this all the time in the local gyms. guy i used to train with won pro card did several shows. he looked great. Now he doesnt even go to the gym its been 2 years. It seems for some of these guys its ALL or NONE like an addict. they push the steriod use to the body's limit train 3 times a day all of a sudden stop and move on

:thumb:

[TrapsBrah]

sometimes peoples priorities in life change too... bb'lding isnt exactly a great way to make a living and its time consuming. who knows...

I see this all the time in the local gyms. guy i used to train with won pro card did several shows. he looked great. Now he doesnt even go to the gym its been 2 years. It seems for some of these guys its ALL or NONE like an addict. they push the steriod use to the body's limit train 3 times a day all of a sudden stop and move on

It still seems like it would destroy your ego though being all huge then getting small. As matt said you can drop the drugs not the lifestyle.

[Bouncer]

He's definitely still natty. In shape though. You'd think he'd want to get on at least a little something and loose the scrawny look but at least he takes care of himself.

[rado]

THAT look could probably be from hrt type dose. Some of those guys really ruin themselves, as to why i think they look sick when completely off. Their own bodies basically need to learn itself again on maintaining. People like myself and some here, we tend to not over do it and even if we do, we scale it back a bit.

[AllDay]

Agree with Rado, that's not necessarily a natty look...

[Bouncer]

Agree with Rado, that's not necessarily a natty look...

Really? I don't disagree with Rado but I certainly don't think you need drugs to achieve that look by any means.