Question about homosexuals

[Timber]

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Originally posted by John ROAR
you make it sound as if being born a race is the same as being born gay, which is not the same at all, I fully agree with telephone.

It is exactly the same Civil rights are civil rights. When you separate groups of people into different categories and then say its ok for this group and not ok for this group then you are denying people basic civil rights. This country has all kinds of rights including the freedom of religion and the freedom from religion. When the constitution was written a lot of care was put into it to word it in such a way that the word God is never mentioned to protect people from religious persecution. In god we trust was added years later as well as to the pledge which by the way is unconstitutional. This is a legal issue not a religious issue. There are many religions in this country that don’t believe in god and these are the freedoms this country are based on. There has to be a separation of church and state and the freedom from religion. That is the reason the Pilgrims came hear in the 1st place, to escape religious persecution. Your trying to say that this country is based on exactly the reason the farthers left Europe for. You should perhaps brush up on your American history

[obscured78]

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Originally posted by Timber
It is exactly the same Civil rights are civil rights. When you separate groups of people into different categories and then say its ok for this group and not ok for this group then you are denying people basic civil rights. ...

why then is it ok for the gays to open up a school FOR GAY PEOPLE ONLY? thats hypocritical because if a school was opened up for straight people only there would be an uproar in the gay community.

[MuGGsy]

Timber maybe you should brush up on reality, black people are born black, gay people are born people, you make choices you don't chose to become a race you chose to live a lifestyle.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by John ROAR
Timber maybe you should brush up on reality, black people are born black, gay people are born people, you make choices you don't chose to become a race you chose to live a lifestyle.

So your saying you find men attractive but choose to be with a woman? why?

[MuGGsy]

Originally posted by Aurora
So your saying you find men attractive but choose to be with a woman? why?

What if a person found little children attractive? Would chosing not to act upon "instinct" make him stupid since there are laws against it. Well to me I don't believe homosexuality is correct, so if I was gay I would chose to not act upon my emotions. And like my original statement I was making the difference between being born as black and being born as gay, one you are and one you are not.

[Aurora]

One is consentual and one is not. apples and oranges.

[Racer814]

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Originally posted by telephone
lol..just like gays tolerate me..lol..thats a good one..i guess your right in a way..the fact is i cant change the world or the people in it..it is what iut is..however, my way of tolerating it might not be yours..i expected some agression for posting my opinion about it and accept it..i hope this doesnt make me a hated man because i certainly done hate anyone for being gay..i simply choose not to accept it as ok..

......it dont make you a hated man bro...you're a good dude.....you have an opinion that goes against the prevailing attitude on this thread and you still spoke your mind.....that is cool......freedom of speech is what this country was founded on.....that and Gods law....Gods law says homosexuality is a sin......alot of things I do are sinful too....so I aint throwing no stones here..........but no.....I dont accept it as ok.......I think this country is going to hell in a handbasket because mans laws are starting to supercede Gods.......but what I want to know is why I think 2 dudes laying together is the most disgusting thing but 2 chicks is the hottest thing in the world.......I guess I got issues...:rofl:

[Aurora]

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Originally posted by Racer814
......it dont make you a hated man bro...you're a good dude.....you have an opinion that goes against the prevailing attitude on this thread and you still spoke your mind.....that is cool......freedom of speech is what this country was founded on.....that and Gods law....Gods law says homosexuality is a sin......alot of things I do are sinful too....so I aint throwing no stones here..........but no.....I dont accept it as ok.......I think this country is going to hell in a handbasket because mans laws are starting to supercede Gods.......but what I want to know is why I think 2 dudes laying together is the most disgusting thing but 2 chicks is the hottest thing in the world.......I guess I got issues...:rofl:

Im the same way. 2 chicks is nasty but 2 guys, oddly, is kind of erotic.

[Aurora]

On the note of gods law though I would find it interesting to know how many of you that are against homosexuality based on "gods law" also use AAS? And would you not consider this to be highly hypocritical?

[trip]

fyi,

On this thread we have 53 replies at this point, and lot's of interesting discussion.

One thing that is clear, is there are probably, at least a half dozen of us who support same sex marriages, me included.

Which should give you a hint of what is about too come.
Probably not next year, or maybe even five, it is coming though.

Remember at one time folks were persecuted, jailed, discriminated because they were different, and lo and behold we found out, oh my gosh, they are not different, they are our sons are daughters, our neighbors, are relatives, and upon these folks I always wish the best.

And yes folks do go to extremes in all walks of life, not my thing, it's just the way the world is.

[telephone]

Originally posted by Aurora
On the note of gods law though I would find it interesting to know how many of you that are against homosexuality based on "gods law" also use AAS? And would you not consider this to be highly hypocritical?

yes i sin..i will have to answer for my sins just like everyone else..i do alot of things i shouldnt do but the fact isthis thread is about homosexuals..if you want to talk about something else then thats fine too..hows the weather in san fransisco..lol

[Timber]

1st of all I don’t believe they're is any such thing as God and there never has been so this foolishness of gods Law is utterly ridicules to me. 2nd Christianity and the Catholics in particular are the most Evil organization the world has ever known. I personally reject anything Christianity stands for because of there crimes against humanity and the genocide they are responsible for.

People are born the way they are, They don’t chose it, They may chose to deny it but sexual preference is simply the way people are born. Have you any Idea how many children and teenagers commit suicide over the fact that they are gay. If it were a choice do you think they would kill themselves over it.

Aurora I said I was Bisexual, I just happened to fall in love with my wife and married her. that was over 20 years ago. Just because I am married doesn’t mean I find men or woman any less attractive. It just means I’m married and in love with my wife. If you were to marry do you think you would no longer find other men attractive?

[telephone]

Originally posted by Timber
I personally reject anything Christianity stands for

have fun burning in hell then..im sure you will regret it..

[Aurora]

Originally posted by Timber
Aurora I said I was Bisexual, I just happened to fall in love with my wife and married her. that was over 20 years ago. Just because I am married doesn’t mean I find men or woman any less attractive. It just means I’m married and in love with my wife. If you were to marry do you think you would no longer find other men attractive?

Since John is the one I quoted, John is the one I was talking to. Dont get cheeky with me mister. :mad:

[Timber]

LOL cheeky, that is so cute. I'm sorry I didn't meen to come across that way to you