ENRAGED

[Kayak Jones]

Originally posted by Jordan
people need to be careful with generalizations. alot of americans dont realise this but you are subject to a great deal of propoganda, especially from networks like cnn. yes, there definately are a lot of fundamentalist scum in iraq that deserve to die, however these people make up a SMALL percentage of iraqs population. most of the population of iraq is made up of people living in developed areas, simply living out life, wishing they had the comforts/resources we had. videos like the ones that are on the net now, definately stir up harsh emotions, but think of all the terrible shit that happens in the US and all countries for that matter. look at guys like charles manson who butchered over a dozen people and all the countless others who have commited henious crimes. in the case of iraq, you ONLY see negative images because those are the only images that make international news. obviously there is an evil in iraq which is far worse than other countries but consider it as individuals, not an entire culture...

You are making a critical error my Canadian friend. It IS their culture to hate our culture.
Remember, regardlees of whether we think we are or not, they believe they are at war with us. A holy war at that.
PS... They want you Kanucks dead too. There is no nuetral ground this time. :usa:

[Jordan]

history has shown countless times that when people are in a desperate economic situation, they resort to religious fundamentalism, or as people have branded the iraq version, terrorism. simply put, there are 2 ways to eliminate this... the way that has been brought up on this board: kill everyone that has any affiliation to the suffering economy, or you can help their economy which is the approach that bush is taking... you can decide for yourselves which seems more reasonable

[JUICE]

Re: Re: Re: Re: ENRAGED

Originally posted by goliath
...well, most of you.

:drunk:

[Breeze]

Originally posted by Jordan
history has shown countless times that when people are in a desperate economic situation, they resort to religious fundamentalism, or as people have branded the iraq version, terrorism. simply put, there are 2 ways to eliminate this... the way that has been brought up on this board: kill everyone that has any affiliation to the suffering economy, or you can help their economy which is the approach that bush is taking... you can decide for yourselves which seems more reasonable

The economies of most Middle Eastern countries generally consist of a few filthy rich families who control the oil while most everyone else is poor. The governments encourage religious extremism and hatred for the west and basically anyone non- Muslim while they get richer and richer by selling oil. These governments would much rather have their people blame the west for their problems instead of blaming their own leaders. Saddam Hussein and his sons would always act like devout muslims when they were in the public eye- allah this, allah that. But their homes were filled with drugs, alcohol, porn, prostitutes, etc. They were living the high life while portraying themselves as heroes of Islam.
You say that the terrorists are practicing religious fundamentalism, but we have "branded" it as terrorism. I didn't realize that kidnapping American and British civil engineers, who were there helping rebuild Iraqs infrastructure, and slowly cutting their heads off was a religious act. Sounds like terrorism to me, and religion and a bad economy don't quite justify the act. If these guys wanted to fight and die for Allah, then they wouldn't need to kidnap and butcher civilian contractors. If they want to fight, there are plenty of soldiers there to accomodate them. We need to be involved in the Middle East because we need oil. Other than that, I really don't think it's Americas job to fix their economies and fix everything that is broken- we need to do that at home first. I don't think that everyone in the Middle East is a terrorist nutcase that must be killed, but I don't think there will ever be a great friendship between us, and thats fine with me. We should do whatever we have to do to get oil and keep them from trying to kill us, nothing more. I would like to think that most of the people over there are decent people, but I can't help but remember the news coverage of the reaction after 9/11 in many cities in the Middle East. People dancing in the streets, celebrating the fact that thousands of people had been murdered, and handing out candy to little kids, who will grow up idolizing terrorists and will want to follow in their footsteps.