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  • What Makes One a 'Vet' or a 'Guru'?

    So I sit here, at 6:22am, before work, reading various boards and articles associated with these boards. I wonder, who writes these? Even more, I wonder if its posted on a message board, does "bump, good info." really mean its good info? Or is the person a 'vet' and it is assumed that he or she always shares good info. I read a myriad of misleading or total misinformation in a lot of threads, posts and articles. Now let me say, I am certainly not the end all of knowledge and theres people here who probably know far more than I do but albeit nutrition, supplements, anabolics, training, etc. some people are truly confused. I was browsing the "largest bodybuilding site on the net!" this morning and read and article by "one of the industries leading gurus" and pointed out at least 4 inaccurate statements made. Not to mention the artcile cite exactly NO references. SO, what makes this guy a guru? His time spent on the boards? his educational background? And what makes a vet on these boards? Who exactly judges that? is it self-proclaimed or is it earned? Ive been on the boards for awhile, since around 1997, not always posting but browsing.... and I must say, the TRUE vets are long gone, now it seems everyone is a vet..... some one help me out and let me in on what defines a guru or a vet?

  • #2
    when they have a bugs name I think....:D


    I agree with you though YJ, everyone is an expert now. I think it has more to do with the recent generation that was brought up thinking that whatever they had to say had importance and couldn't be wrong as long as they said "Something". People are taught that just having an opinion is knowledge. They are taught nothing of reasoning, logic or logical fallacies in the arena of debating knowledge.

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    • #3
      like for me thats why im carefull of who i take advice from. I dont take advice from everyone. Like in my gym, theres always these guys telling me Im doing the workouts all wrong, but when I think about it "Its working on me" and Im bigger than them. But your right YJ

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      • #4
        not being a 'vet,' or a 'guru,' i'll take what i can from your comments...
        Thanx YJ, for reminding us to not necessarilly listen to someones advice simply because they are big, claim to be big, or have those two words underneath their name
        Sometimes i read things that make me wonder, but not having the knowledge & educational background myself to refute these things, i simply ignore them.
        One of the first questions i ever asked on this board was regarding NO2, and it was quickly dismissed as being useless. When i asked for reasoning & sources etc., YJ posted a substantial list of reading so i was assured i was not only taking peoples antecdotal advice. that's what i like about this board.
        but i'm also left wondering about other people. i know some jackasses at the gym who would bang their heads into the wall if i told them it would make them bigger... i can imagine the ideas that could be put in their heads by someone who simply proclaims to be something they are not.
        ...everything with a grain of salt...

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        • #5
          What do i know, I'm only an amature... lol

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          • #6
            <~~~~~~~~~

            :D

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            • #7
              ^^^ tool

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              • #8
                ^^^ Amature tool :D

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                • #9
                  I only post on a couple of boards and I am relatively new to this game but what I've seen is this: On each board you have one or two KNOWN names on both that board and on at least one other, these people are the ones who I have found consistently back there information up with science and should be the "vets" "gurus", then you have the mods who are local to that board and who don't really offer much outside of what is previously stated using a search function... not to bash on these guys, I am sure they know loads more than I do, I am just saying it seems like in general they repeat more and know less than say a true vet or guru who can break down the science behind every scenario and explain exactly HOW and WHY it works. Just my 2 cents, I could be completely off :)

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                  • #10
                    it seems to me the more you post the diffrent names you get,no matter what you post ! sooner or later it will say vet next to my name and i am no vet as far a knowldge goes. the way i look at it if you are around enough you see who knows there shit.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by r_deese
                      ^^^ tool
                      I've got your tool for ya. :D

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                      • #12
                        the way i look at it if you are around enough you see who knows there shit.

                        agreed



                        also there is a difference between vet and guru i am no guru but am a vet of the boards -- i am not going to get into the difference cause i am fucking sick -- i mean i feel like complete shit-:(


                        by the way whats up YJ

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                          Last edited by JUICE; 09-30-09, 04:05 PM.

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                          • #14
                            vet or gury--nobody knows it all.but they are definitely know more then newbees.they get information same way everybody does--boards ,books, magazines, sometimes info is right sometimes not.and on some questions there is no simple answer.every person have different approach and every board has different approach.like methods and cycles people using here are little differ then whatever i learned from other boards.i was trying to follow whatever first advice i learned but then i swiched to different tactic. i ask the same question on different boards adn couple weeks later i ask similar (almost the same )question again.you would be surprized how differ that infor in two weeks even from the same person. but combining all those infos can get the better answer.

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                            • #15
                              <------- Superior Tool :P

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