Time for me to hate on baseball again...

[bad14u]

That's an interesting spin on the topic at hand. I would have to still say not so much though. I really liked watching Barry Bonds when I was living in SF. Went to some games and all. But it is just to slow for me.

I think most people love it for the anticipation of what may happen next. It is a slow game but sitting in the outfield with a cold beer waiting to hopefully catch a souveneir is awesome in my book!

[Taylor]

i play baseball and actually tried out for the white sox on tuesday...I can personally run 2 miles, and i'm more out of breath running around the bases once in a game

i think most people don't breath normal when they run the bases...your standing around in the field, and sitting in the dugout combined for about 30 minutes or so in between your at bats, and then all of a sudden u hit the ball and you gotta sprint it out

your heart rate jumps from nothing to alot in little time

when your actually outside just running or doing cardio in the gym you gradually get your heart rate going up

[Taylor]

I guess it's just the way I look at athletes. Have you seen that new reebok comercial with Iverson talking about "how his jump shot has gotten him a car, a house, an agent, yes sir people, but none of that stuff can give you a jump shot". I just look at baseball and for the most part of it as long as you take the time to practice just about anyone could become a pro. Sure you have to have something specific the scouts are looking for at that time, but really, other than pitching and maybe a little bit of the hitting, what dosn't just take practice. I grew up playing soccer and basketball and to achieve in either of those you are going to really have to have natural skill in them. In football there is alot of skill needed for the majority of it. In hockey you need so much skill, in anything that can cross over to the olympics you need skill... Anyway I think you get my point.

i could easily argue with you about that....just like football, when u practice it should be easy to throw a perfect spiral 50 yards or catch a football running at full speed.....but some people just have bad hands, some people have weak or innaccurate arms that can only be built up so much

i think fielding groundballs and catching fly balls can be taught, but fielding major league groundballs and flyballs i dont think so

you gotta play the game and understand it to respect it, and it helps if you've played it at a high level

i personally think racing isn't a sport, what person with a license can't drive around in circles? i dont think golf is a sport, i call it a hobby or a leisure activity...but i haven't done neither of those at a high level so i dont know what it takes or how much training it takes

[bad14u]

i could easily argue with you about that....just like football, when u practice it should be easy to throw a perfect spiral 50 yards or catch a football running at full speed.....but some people just have bad hands, some people have weak or innaccurate arms that can only be built up so much

i think fielding groundballs and catching fly balls can be taught, but fielding major league groundballs and flyballs i dont think so

you gotta play the game and understand it to respect it, and it helps if you've played it at a high level

i personally think racing isn't a sport, what person with a license can't drive around in circles? i dont think golf is a sport, i call it a hobby or a leisure activity...but i haven't done neither of those at a high level so i dont know what it takes or how much training it takes

I agree with everything but the last part about racing and golf, but like you also said "you gotta play the game and understand it to respect it, and it helps if you've played it at a high level"

[Gods Son]

A hockey fan hating on Baseball....Now thats funny

[Gods Son]

I guess it's just the way I look at athletes. Have you seen that new reebok comercial with Iverson talking about "how his jump shot has gotten him a car, a house, an agent, yes sir people, but none of that stuff can give you a jump shot". I just look at baseball and for the most part of it as long as you take the time to practice just about anyone could become a pro. Sure you have to have something specific the scouts are looking for at that time, but really, other than pitching and maybe a little bit of the hitting, what dosn't just take practice. I grew up playing soccer and basketball and to achieve in either of those you are going to really have to have natural skill in them. In football there is alot of skill needed for the majority of it. In hockey you need so much skill, in anything that can cross over to the olympics you need skill... Anyway I think you get my point.

Now that is ridiculous...... :bsflag: Hockey is below golf as a major sport... How can you say hockey players have skill...They skate ave...Fight like girls...LOL give me a break

[Goosteady]

I just look at baseball and for the most part of it as long as you take the time to practice just about anyone could become a pro. Sure you have to have something specific the scouts are looking for at that time, but really, other than pitching and maybe a little bit of the hitting, what dosn't just take practice. I grew up playing soccer and basketball and to achieve in either of those you are going to really have to have natural skill in them. In football there is alot of skill needed for the majority of it. In hockey you need so much skill, in anything that can cross over to the olympics you need skill... Anyway I think you get my point.

Clearly you have never been around the game of baseball or you would not make a statement like this. For one thing, you can't just practice and throw a ball hard. People are just born with good arms. It is the intangibles that baseball recruiters look for (can the guy get a ball from right field to third on a line, does a guy step in the bucket on a 2-2 curve, or can that first baseman scoop a ball out of the dirt...scooping is something you really can't teach). And going right along with these intangibles there is a theme in major league baseball of scouts recruiting relatives of former proven players. Why they put such an emphasis on family I don't know, but they do. It seems like, hypothetically, in a normal draft that Will Clark's son will go 20 rounds higher than better players who played the same position with better stats...I guess they figure the said player will mature into their father. But my point being, baseball, like football and basketball, has many aspects that cannot be gained just through "practice" and are simply intangibles, much like being able to jump out of the building in basketball.

[Taylor]

i'm sorry but in soccer, you need conditioning and you need to know how to kick a ball....goalies need to be able to have great reactions and dive to save a ball...

in baseball you have a small ball coming at you anywhere between 90mph and 60mph, often the ball is moving, sometimes it will go left or right, sometimes it looks like its just coming straight at you and it drops to the ground...
while your in the field you have balls coming at you up to 150mph at times

in hockey, and soccer i think the only athletes you can compare to baseball players are the goaltenders
baseball i can understand being boring for some people, but the actual skill it takes to play is unappreciated

lots of people in baseball have curveballs that look like their coming right at your head and then they curve right into the strikezone...u got less then a second to decide whether to swing or to try and save your teeth

[YellowJacket]

Now that is ridiculous...... :bsflag: Hockey is below golf as a major sport... How can you say hockey players have skill...They skate ave...Fight like girls...LOL give me a break

Hockey is the most difficult sport on Earth to play. Im not a hockey fan, but I respect the game. They do what you could not do with tennis shoes on, with skates on ice.

[Taylor]

Hockey is the most difficult sport on Earth to play. Im not a hockey fan, but I respect the game. They do what you could not do with tennis shoes on, with skates on ice.

i strongly disagree, the toughest part about hockey is skating on ice...and i dont see any of those guys jumping up in the air and doing 360's...its like lacrosse with skates on

[YellowJacket]

i strongly disagree, the toughest part about hockey is skating on ice...and i dont see any of those guys jumping up in the air and doing 360's...its like lacrosse with skates on

You obviously have no experience in the game nor in the classroom then. The coordination required is beyond anything you have ever done. 80% of people in this world cant even ice skate, let alone play a full contact sport on ice. The biomechanics and skill involved make it far and away the most difficult sport to play, no questions. Just because you may not like hockey, dont discredit on the fact they dont do jumping 360s.

[Taylor]

You obviously have no experience in the game nor in the classroom then.

:sleep:
don't be a dick, just because someone doesn't agree with every word you say


apparently you have obviously never stepped in and tried to hit a 90mph followed by a 75mph curveball coming towards your head

i have not played college level hockey, but I played as a kid

ice skating and hitting a puck is nothing compared to baseball, compare it to running at full speed trying to catch a tailing baseball coming at you 80mph

you talk about coordination? HAH! if i went to an ice rink everyday for two weeks I could easily learn how to skate and abruptly stop

everybody can hit a puck, pro's can aim where there going and that's fine and good for them, but not often are they hitting a puck coming at them 90mph, they stop it and hit a stationary puck


you have less then a second to make your mind up about hitting a baseball

During the entire middle portion of the pitch, the batter must time the ball and decide where to swing. If the batter decides to swing, he must start when the ball is approximately 25 to 30 feet in front of the plate. The ball will arrive at the plate about 250 thousandths of a second later -- about the limit of human reaction time. The bat must make contact with the ball within an even smaller time range: A few thousandths of a second error in timing will result in a foul ball. Position is important, too. Hitting the ball only a few millimeters too high or too low results in a fly ball or a grounder.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/biobaseball.html


comparing hockey to baseball is ridiculous....i gave hockey it's credit, the goalies are the best athletes on the ice, but the difficulty isn't even comparable...NO QUESTION :moron:

[Taylor]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ten-hardest-splash.htm

look at that, the well respected staff of usa today ranked hitting a baseball as the most difficult thing in sports, and nothing in hockey ranked even in the top 10

my intentions aren't to knock hockey, i used to thing it was a fine sport when gretzky was skating around the ice (i've kinda lost interest since then, even tho the red wings slightly kept me interested)

stick to the supps, cause i don't care what you learned in a classroom, nothings harder then hitting a moving fastball

[Shibby]

i'm sorry but in soccer, you need conditioning and you need to know how to kick a ball....goalies need to be able to have great reactions and dive to save a ball...

in baseball you have a small ball coming at you anywhere between 90mph and 60mph, often the ball is moving, sometimes it will go left or right, sometimes it looks like its just coming straight at you and it drops to the ground...
while your in the field you have balls coming at you up to 150mph at times

in hockey, and soccer i think the only athletes you can compare to baseball players are the goaltenders
baseball i can understand being boring for some people, but the actual skill it takes to play is unappreciated

lots of people in baseball have curveballs that look like their coming right at your head and then they curve right into the strikezone...u got less then a second to decide whether to swing or to try and save your teeth

Well first off all I said pitching takes skill. Learning to see it and react takes practice. Trust me I know of that. Try having punches thrown at you, you will learn reaction time and quick decision making. Second you obviously have no clue what it takes to get a soccer ball by someone. The footwork while not looking at the ball and reading the defender's body language at the same time. Try kicking a pass to match up with your teamate perfectly for him to make a quick kick. Try heading or kicking a ball in the air to go any direction you want and even harder into a goal past a goalie.

[Taylor]

The footwork while not looking at the ball and reading the defender's body language at the same time.

equal to a basketball crossover or a football juke
with both u dont need to be a great ballhandler to play basketball or soccer successfully

unless u can pinpoint where u throw a baseball or throw 90mph, you have to be able to consistently hit a moving ball off the barrel of your bat to have even the smallest shot at making the pro's

u act like baseball is the only sport where people practice :rolleyes: