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  • #16
    Natural selection...

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    • #17
      My Family is from New Orleans and some in Mississippi, there were also many people in Mississippi that are not African American that did not leave when told to do so. Many stayed with their houses. Also water was brought Mississippi much faster than New Orleans. My cousins down their are getting water and food that is being brought in. There is a problem why aid is not coming fast enough. So the whole racial thing about New Orleans is not relevant, the bottom line is aid should be there and be there faster just like all the other crisis we have in the US and around the world. The hurricane did not do the most damage it is the water ways and this should have all been prevented. A lot of the people who stayed were elderly with no way to get out. The looting is wrong of course it is, but there are still people dying for no reason and this should not be happening.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Stixs
        My Family is from New Orleans and some in Mississippi, there were also many people in Mississippi that are not African American that did not leave when told to do so. Many stayed with their houses. Also water was brought Mississippi much faster than New Orleans. My cousins down their are getting water and food that is being brought in. There is a problem why aid is not coming fast enough. So the whole racial thing about New Orleans is not relevant, the bottom line is aid should be there and be there faster just like all the other crisis we have in the US and around the world. The hurricane did not do the most damage it is the water ways and this should have all been prevented. A lot of the people who stayed were elderly with no way to get out. The looting is wrong of course it is, but there are still people dying for no reason and this should not be happening.
        you say the food and water, the aid should be getting there quicker, but "people" are shooting at everyone who comes to help them in new orleans.....people are even running into the hospitals holding everyone up for drugs

        and yes race IS relevant when you have the naacp on tv saying the slowness is because everyone is black...they don't acknowledge that some of those black people are holding ak-47's shooting at the gas tanks of helicoptors and shooting at the ambulances trying to steal them and drive off.....should these volunteers bringing food fight through the bullets and risk there life to help these people

        you wouldn't jump into a pit of venomous snakes and not expect to get bit


        you sound naive as if there is a red carpet welcoming this help in, THAT IS NOT THE CASE

        they need to put marshall law into affect and get things in order

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        • #19
          you sound naive as if there is a red carpet welcoming this help in
          Ok dude what ever you say. I am naive, there are many people there also helping others, there are many people there helping that you are not seeing on TV. Also FYI, black are not the majority on Welfare, the welfare system was not created for blacks, when it was created only white were allowed to get welfare.

          Bottom line people need help and I have done what I can and will continue whether it is money, supplies. My wife is actually flying into Houston on Sunday to help family members and other that will need help because it is needed. Like we have helped for 9/11 and the tsunami.
          Last edited by Stixs; 09-02-05, 01:16 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Taylor
            you can believe what you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that every scene captured on tv is of black people looting, ive seen two shots of mexicans looting...it doesn't change the fact that the NAACP are saying the government is taking its time because their are mainly black people remaining in new orleans, and it doesn't change the fact that black people have gone on tv and complained about not having a hot meal in the superdome

            i guess all the white people are looting too, the newscasts are all just biased and refuse to show any white people doing something wrong?

            i've never said every black person is bad, nor did i hint that....in fact in the other new orleans thread i said something along the lines that it's embarassing, its a shame that all these insane people are making the entire city of new orleans look bad

            you can refer to me as a "right wing wacko" all you want, i'm anti-criminal, i'm anti-NAACP, i'm anti-complaining about free shit, i'm anti-shooting at doctors that come to help me, i'm anti-stealing, i'm anti-raping women, i'm anti-tearing up everything in my city, i'm anti-setting buildings on fire....if thats fucking crazy then that's just what i am....theres no excuse for that behavior
            Let's start with your last paragraph first, if you believe that in a time of crisis, our government should not step in to aid all "Americans," you should stop paying your local taxes to pay officers, fire fighters, national guard, etc., which are all paid by by local, state, and federal tax dollars. "Aid" is for everyone, even the scum of the earth, that's why we have both "aid" programs and legislation "laws" that are separate. "Aid" is for everyone, not just the people that are not criminals. That's why we have legislation for criminals. We still feed criminals in prison, these criminals have not been caught, but hopefully they will by our local, state, and federally paid officers. Other than your comment about "anti-NAACP," I could not agree more. The NAACP is not all about segregation, racism, etc. Unfortunately, this is what is being promoted. My only guess about the NAACP comments from CNN, is to attempt to draw more attention and aid to the effected areas (I also agree using the race card is not the way to do it).

            You first paragraph: Like I had mentioned before, individuals that could afford to leave and listened to the warnings, LEFT! The majority of citizens left are POOR and if you know anything about statistics, 80%+ of all criminals live at or under the poverty line. To reinforce this, let me reiterate, the bulk of individuals left in the effected areas are POOR. As stated in my first response to your "soap box release," POOR is POOR, criminals are criminals, and neither change because of a hurricane. The POOR are still POOR (even more so), and criminals are still criminals. One again, in different wording, the POOR of the nation, specifically in New Orleans, the majority are black or another minority group.

            Second paragraph: I did not say that caucasions are not being reported on, I said the BULK of the people left are POOR, which equates to a LARGE percentage of BLACK PEOPLE. Being that there is crime in progress by the left over citizens, you will see the MAJORITY (or even all) of these crimes being commited by minorities. Do I need to write this in crayon or something. I agree that this behavior of any race is insane and should not be tolerated.

            Third paragraph: We are not talking about another thread, we are talking about this one, the one you started. Below is a quote from you, if you are not refering to black people in this below quote, you must be refering to ALIENS from the new smash hit, MIB-III. Come on, you were refering to blacks, specifically the ones shown on your TV. There is not specific reference to ALL black people here, but if you were refering to maybe 100 or 500, I could believe you weren't refering to all blacks, but it looks like you are refering to people on "government assistance." What do you know about government assistance and who it helps and who it doesn't!?! There are many holes in every system our government creates, that's a fact. You want to do something about those holes, run for congress and change them, BUT until then, we deal with what the "voters" have created with our law-makers. These looters are not making the entire city of New Orleans look bad, just themselves. An educated person will use logic and reason to come to this assumption. Everyone is different, you, me, and everyone else. If my actions reflected on you b/c we are from the same area or same color, I highly doubt people will look at you and lump you into a category with me, because of my actions; if they do, it's their ignorance, not yours, not mine.

            Originally posted by Taylor
            i'll be cold.....all those people or 99% of those people bitching about there food, water and lackthereof are probably the same people who are getting their meals thanks to us taxpayers, they are probably leaving in free housing, and they probably have 10 kids with 10 different partners that NONE of them can afford to begin with....and on top of that, they probably aren't even supporting the children with the money the government sends them, they're probably snorting it up their nose and that's why they didn't bring any food or water to the dome!!!!!!!
            Going to Vegas....talk to you all on Tuesday...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by blm
              Natural selection...
              EXACTLY! They should just put a fence around New Orleans so they can all kill themselves. I've been to New Orleans and its the dirtiest, nastiest, smelling city i've ever been to. The descent people moved when Katrina came. So now if they put a fence around New Orleans then it'll just wipe out most of their crime and scum because they'll all kill themself. And no that wasn't a racists comment because I didn't mention any nationality. Although i'm sure somone on here will be screaming towards me "Racists". I'm saying anyone that stayed which was welfare and criminal, scum, should have a fence put around them so it'll wipe them out. Then atleast we'll see some progress.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Stixs
                FYI, black are not the majority on Welfare, the welfare system was not created for blacks, when it was created only white were allowed to get welfare.

                How did this thread become black vs white? What fucking difference does it fucking make what the fucking color of someone's fucking skin is? What the fuck? Poor, black, rich, white...they still need help. Maybe they need help because they're stupid, but they still need help none-the-less. It's our responsibility to help them, not determine if the cause of their need is worthy of our time and resources. That's just dumb.

                As to the looting...I agree...friggin disgraceful. I hope they all die slow, horrible and painful deaths from disease and rot. Fucking lunatics. They should be beaten with sticks until they bleed and then salted like slugs.

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                • #23
                  FYI - I just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geico.

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                  • #24
                    I think you'll see a marked difference in security today, perhaps tomorrow, as troops, National Guard and regular Army start arriving. They have been given orders to "shoot to kill" if they are attacked. I personally believe they probably have been told to shoot anybody who is looting anything other than food and/or water, if there is any left. The people who are left in the city now are the worst of the worst criminal element. They have had access to drug stores and liquor stores and you know they have been helping themselves and are probably "high as Georgia Pines" and just looking to hurt people. They'll get their's very, very soon. Some of the troops going in are seasoned fighters and have been to Iraq and Afganistan, so they know how to handle a house to house street fight. Damn shame they have to come back home and do the same job they did while in another country. But, believe me, they will get the job done very quickly. BB

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DS-COUSIN
                      Let's start with your last paragraph first, if you believe that in a time of crisis, our government should not step in to aid all "Americans," you should stop paying your local taxes to pay officers, fire fighters, national guard, etc., which are all paid by by local, state, and federal tax dollars. "Aid" is for everyone, even the scum of the earth, that's why we have both "aid" programs and legislation "laws" that are separate. "Aid" is for everyone, not just the people that are not criminals. That's why we have legislation for criminals. We still feed criminals in prison, these criminals have not been caught, but hopefully they will by our local, state, and federally paid officers. Other than your comment about "anti-NAACP," I could not agree more. The NAACP is not all about segregation, racism, etc. Unfortunately, this is what is being promoted. My only guess about the NAACP comments from CNN, is to attempt to draw more attention and aid to the effected areas (I also agree using the race card is not the way to do it).

                      You first paragraph: Like I had mentioned before, individuals that could afford to leave and listened to the warnings, LEFT! The majority of citizens left are POOR and if you know anything about statistics, 80%+ of all criminals live at or under the poverty line. To reinforce this, let me reiterate, the bulk of individuals left in the effected areas are POOR. As stated in my first response to your "soap box release," POOR is POOR, criminals are criminals, and neither change because of a hurricane. The POOR are still POOR (even more so), and criminals are still criminals. One again, in different wording, the POOR of the nation, specifically in New Orleans, the majority are black or another minority group.

                      Second paragraph: I did not say that caucasions are not being reported on, I said the BULK of the people left are POOR, which equates to a LARGE percentage of BLACK PEOPLE. Being that there is crime in progress by the left over citizens, you will see the MAJORITY (or even all) of these crimes being commited by minorities. Do I need to write this in crayon or something. I agree that this behavior of any race is insane and should not be tolerated.

                      Third paragraph: We are not talking about another thread, we are talking about this one, the one you started. Below is a quote from you, if you are not refering to black people in this below quote, you must be refering to ALIENS from the new smash hit, MIB-III. Come on, you were refering to blacks, specifically the ones shown on your TV. There is not specific reference to ALL black people here, but if you were refering to maybe 100 or 500, I could believe you weren't refering to all blacks, but it looks like you are refering to people on "government assistance." What do you know about government assistance and who it helps and who it doesn't!?! There are many holes in every system our government creates, that's a fact. You want to do something about those holes, run for congress and change them, BUT until then, we deal with what the "voters" have created with our law-makers. These looters are not making the entire city of New Orleans look bad, just themselves. An educated person will use logic and reason to come to this assumption. Everyone is different, you, me, and everyone else. If my actions reflected on you b/c we are from the same area or same color, I highly doubt people will look at you and lump you into a category with me, because of my actions; if they do, it's their ignorance, not yours, not mine.



                      Going to Vegas....talk to you all on Tuesday...
                      quit making excuses, poor black people or not who cares.....they're the ones committing the crimes, maybe if they weren't such loose cannons to begin with they wouldn't be poor and unemployed

                      and your not getting the point about aid......yes unfortuneatly criminals are supposed to be getting aid, but those who are giving out the aids also aren't supposed to be getting shot at, its not their job to be shot at while giving away free food and water....it sounds like your still anti-government and in defense of these idiots in this situation

                      Let's start with your last paragraph first, if you believe that in a time of crisis, our government should not step in to aid all "Americans," you should stop paying your local taxes to pay officers, fire fighters, national guard, etc., which are all paid by by local, state, and federal tax dollars.
                      i dont know how that has anything to do with what i said, much less anything i said in the last paragraph

                      and yes actions by few reflect a large quantity of people.....like say you live in a small neighborhood and a gang of 5 people constantly steal, hold up and rob cars, shoot at people, etc...nobody is going to want to come to your neighborhood, they're gonna think all of you in that neighborhood are loco, because there are no faces to the crime

                      all those good people from new orleans are embarassed of the local citizens, hell i'm embarassed that american citizens are acting like that...and i'm embarassed people like YOU have the nerve to defend them

                      "their poor", "their in a highly populated black area" what the fuck ever man...them being black and poor doesn't make them loot everything in sight and shoot in the same way, there aren't any excuses so dont make any

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by realconan
                        How did this thread become black vs white?
                        this became a black vs white when the naacp lawyers, and black members of congress criticized the government for being to slow ONLY because the majority of new orleans is black

                        supposedly if everyone in the superdome was white, all the people shooting ak-47 rifles at help, all the people raping the women..if they were all white...then our government would go ahead and give them all a nice warm $50 outback steakhouse dinner

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BigRed54
                          Although i'm sure somone on here will be screaming towards me "Racists".
                          There are some people who would call you racist for smiling at a white person and not smiling at a black person

                          some people will call anybody racist for anything just to try and make a point

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                          • #28
                            Let me ask you guys something that seem to be doing nothing but arguing and bitching about every fucking thing. What have you done to help? Shut the fuck up and do something instead of arguing like a bunch of bitches.

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                            • #29
                              What I want to know is why is gas, here in CAnada jumping to stupid prices because of a hurricane. Anyone want to marry me and get me US citenship so I get out of here. I have a nice car:)

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                              • #30
                                The Tsunami effected mostly black people and there was no looting shooting etc. It is a moral problem not a racial problem.

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