Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case Admits to Killing

[Shibby]

They were also saying today that there isn't any possible records of him going to Colorado on that day. I still think he just completely made it up. He probably watched a bunch of her pageant video's, "fell in love with her", researched as much info as possible, just went for the attention and/or to get out of Thailand.

[FitnessBrat]

I agree - I don't think he committed this crime. They've said he's a classic "false confesser."
I agree with PI that you're much better of in an American prison, than one in Thailand. I think he's a whack job - and found an excuse to be extradited back to the US.
I'm still unsure if I believe it was the mom, the parents, or a stranger. I think the mom was a weirdo, and I know they've said she was frustrated with JonBenet constant bed-wetting. The fact that the parents would not interview without each other present, and so many other stipulations - is suspicious.....

[Shibby]

Did you hear this tape of him talking to a California sherrif's department in 2001? Talking about being with Jonbonet, doing her, and there is nothing the mom could do about it.

[redsquirrel]

Who knows....his wife is saying that they were together when this happened.

She says he was in Alabama w/ her for Christmas...yet all of the pics she had from that year DIDN'T have him in ANY of them. Just like Bouncer said, he knew details about the crime that only a very SELECT few knew. This type of info was never released to the public.

We'll have a pretty good idea when they get DNA results back...apparently there was some DNA under JonBenets fingernails

As for Patsy Ramsey- she knew of this investigation prior to her death...just no arrest. If he was set up as a patsy, then why is this coming AFTER her death?

[Primal Instinct]

Maybe Karr was the one taking all of the pics? That could explain why he wasn't in them.

[bad14u]

Did you hear this tape of him talking to a California sherrif's department in 2001? Talking about being with Jonbonet, doing her, and there is nothing the mom could do about it.

Apparently in those taped conversations he is delusional. He has a hard time deciphering between reality and fantasy. The part of the conversation you mentioned, sounds as if he was fantasizing about being with Jonbonet and there was nothing the mother could do. We can all speculate but the DNA will be the deciding factor.

[FitnessBrat]

He knew a lot about the case because he was "obsessed" with it for quite some time. He had interviewed the grandparents, wrote a lengthy paper, and was even going to write a book about it.

There was DNA under her fingernails - but they said they used the same scalpel as the previous autopsy - so that's no good.

I don't think her death had anything to do with his confession now. I think he's confessing because he got in trouble in Thailand.....

Why would his ex wife be trying to fake an alibi for him? We all know he's at least a sexual predator - he's scum whether he was involved or not.

[Shibby]

Why would his ex wife be trying to fake an alibi for him? We all know he's at least a sexual predator - he's scum whether he was involved or not.

There is a lot of embarrasment he will bring, if he hasn't already, to his family and friends. Even if they dislike him now and don't have any real contact with him, they all still have to face the world.

[FitnessBrat]

There is a lot of embarrasment he will bring, if he hasn't already, to his family and friends. Even if they dislike him now and don't have any real contact with him, they all still have to face the world.

Right - which is why they should have no reason to lie and say he wasnt in Colorado.

[Shibby]

Not if they don't want to have people asking questions about them. They may be more selfish about, not being associated with a person who comits these crimes and would rather him just be a person who craves the attention. If it's in him to do these crimes, then what about the type of person that would marry a guy like that or do his children have the potential to be that kind of person also? Does his brother have issues we don't know about? These are all the types of things that would come up if Karr is convicted of these crimes.

[blm]

He wasn't in prison in Thailand. He was brought in by Thai officials in a concerted efffort w/the US. I think he did it...and even if he didn't, they should gut 'em just on principle alone.

[redsquirrel]

He wasn't in prison in Thailand. He was brought in by Thai officials in a concerted efffort w/the US. I think he did it...and even if he didn't, they should gut 'em just on principle alone.

Correct. In fact, speculation indicates he was living in Thailand because of the child prostitution/porn industry there. He also was supposed to start teaching again.

FB- they also found DNA in JonBenet's panties

[Shibby]

Well there's another tape out that was made in 2001 where he describes the murder. But he claims to both strangle and bash her head in. He said he bashed her head in because she was already dead. Maybe he was angry that "she left him".

[Shibby]

No DNA match to Karr

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ramsey.arrest/

No DNA match, no JonBenet charges
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BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- Prosecutors abandoned their case against schoolteacher John Mark Karr on Monday, saying that DNA tests failed to link Karr to the slaying of child beauty contestant JonBenet Ramsey.

Karr was briefly freed from jail but was quickly returned to await extradition to California, where he is wanted on five misdemeanor child pornography counts, officials said.

District Attorney Mary Lacy revealed how the case against Karr was built -- and unraveled -- in a five-page motion asking a judge to drop the arrest warrant that brought Karr from Bangkok, Thailand. (Read the documents. (Viewer discretion advised.))

DNA tests completed Saturday confirmed that Karr "was not the source of the DNA found on the underwear of JonBenet Ramsey" -- disproving his claim that he was sexually involved with the child and killed her by accident.

Karr's family also provided "strong circumstantial" evidence he was with them in Georgia at the time of the crime, court papers stated.

The prosecutor's motion said "no evidence has developed, other than his own repeated admissions, to place Mr. Karr at the scene of the crime." (Watch the case against Karr fall apart -- 1:17)

Karr's Colorado public defender, Seth Temin, first disclosed that no charges would be filed and that a hearing scheduled for late Monday afternoon had been canceled.
Defender 'distressed'

"We're deeply distressed by the fact they took this man, dragged him back here from Bangkok, Thailand, with no forensic evidence confirming the allegations against him and no independent factors leading to a presumption that he did anything wrong," Temin said.

Prosecutors will offer their version of events Tuesday.

According to Lacy's court papers, University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey brought Karr to the attention of investigators in April.

Using the pseudonyms "D" and later, "Daxis," Karr began communicating in 2002 with the professor, who has produced documentaries on the 10-year Ramsey investigation.

At first, court papers say, "Daxis" claimed to know two people who participated in the crime, but later insisted he was personally responsible.

His story emerged slowly, through e-mails, a manuscript and nearly a dozen phone calls. Still, the writer continued to keep his true identity and whereabouts secret from Tracey, the court papers stated.

He claimed to be sexually involved with the child, including "temporarily asphyxiating her," the court papers said.
'Lost track of time'

And, he said he "had 'accidentally' killed her by becoming so sexually involved that he lost track of time so that the asphyxiation lasted longer than he intended, causing her severe injury and leading him to inflict a severe blow to her head," the document stated.

Autopsy results showed JonBenet had suffered a blow to the head and been strangled with a garrote tightened with a paintbrush handle.

Tracey reached out to authorities in April when his contact became increasingly interested in contacting Patsy Ramsey, JonBenet's mother, who was in the final weeks of her life. Patsy Ramsey died of ovarian cancer in June. The contact also related that he was in continuing contact with young girls, the court papers stated.

Authorities were able to trace phone calls to Tracey from "Daxis" to Karr in Thailand, court papers said.

In a court filing last week, Boulder prosecutors said they had known Karr's identity for just five days before he was arrested and that the investigation into his possible role in the case was in its preliminary phase.

After his arrest, Karr told reporters in Thailand he was with JonBenet the night she died, and that her death was an accident. The 6-year-old's beaten and strangled body was found December 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home.

Karr's arrest, nearly 10 years after the grisly crime that grew into an international media sensation, had given the Ramsey family hope that the slaying had, at long last, been solved.

Patsy Ramsey's sister said the family was "hanging in there." She declined to comment further. (Watch Patsy Ramsey's sister reveal what the family will do if Karr isn't guilty -- 4:11)

After Karr's statements in Thailand, questions have surfaced as to whether the slight, soft-spoken man could have been involved in the grisly killing. On Monday, what some experts had been saying appeared to ring true: John Mark Karr's involvement with JonBenet Ramsey's murder was a fantasy.

[house1]

it was obvious from the beggining that he did not do it - just a waste of taxpayers money !