Vista sucks

[goliath]

Will do...

yeah - IE is still total garbage. the only reason it's so heavily used is because microsoft bundled it with windows and shut out the competition (netscape) because most users are too computer illiterate to realize that there are better options. i try the new versions of IE as they are released, but they all suck. i used netscape way back when, then opera as netscape began to die, then mozilla, and since firefox became available, that's what i've used.

[goliath]

i dont think it needs 4gigs of ram goliath. i have 2 gigs of ram and a Athlon Dual Core running Vista Premium and it is just as fast as XP.

in my case i'm sure it has more to do with the apps i run. vista on boot would eat up almost a gig (ridiculous). then i run the cs2 suite along with that and well...there went my 2 gigs.

i'm incredibly impatient when it comes to computing. all of my pc's are fairly loaded and i generally have 4-5 apps running at any given time. at work i have 3 monitors running just to manage all the apps i use and give me more real estate to spread them across.

here's a photo of my office rig when i was using the xps...monitors are the same but now i use the d610 instead.

[goliath]

I thought Mozilla and FF were the same, or same platform.

they are now - but it used to be different....

[goliath]

And how did you go broke???? Someone like you should be making near $100K...if not at least mid $60K...

i opened my own pilates studio and went back to school full-time. but now i'm back in IT and my finances are returning to normal...i'll open another business eventually. only next time i won't quit my day job or let idiots run it for me.

[goliath]

Pilates? hmmm...ok...well if that made you happy, good for you...Well regardless of what I said to you, I never wish anyone hardships in life...Even though I may not like you, I still wish you luck with your finances.

So...Why in the hell does my Outlook log me out(of this site and other sites) everytime I get an email(from any source)...When I send and email, it will not go out unless I log out of this site...And vice versa...When I get an email and I refresh for "New posts", it logs me out...

pilates was the business - not what i was into. if i open a burger joint, it isn't necessarily true that i eat nothing but hamburgers. with regard to going broke, it's better to have it happen before 30 because it gives you plenty of time to recover. being broke and being poor are very different. broke implies a current lack of financial capital, being poor implies an unwillingness do shit about it. i am far from being poor and i've never been so.

about your outlook problem...send me $100 and i'll send you the answer.

[NewbieChris]

when vista came out, i grabbed a copy right away. (i work in IT and somehow licenses come my way pretty quickly with new OS releases) i hated it at first because i was running it on a dell d620 with 1 gig of ram and a 2.33ghz cpu. i put it on my desktop which has run linux for quite a while - same problem, sluggish as hell. it just felt like a big bloated pig. i ditched it for a couple months and dismissed it as garbage. then i decided to make the d620 my work notebook because it's so much smaller than my xps m1710 - i threw a couple more gigs in my xps bringing it to 4 gigs of ram and a 2.16 ghz cpu and it's much, much faster. as far as stability goes, now that programs are being updated and written for vista, i find that it's much more stable and just as fast as xp. faster? not really...maybe a little. more stable? for sure. i do a lot of break-beat/house dj'ing on my notebook with vdj and also graphics design with photoshop/illustrator cs2 and i've found that the multimedia support in vista far outshines xp. xp is junk with regard to multimedia. always has been.

anyhow - i hated it at first and to be honest, i wanted to hate it. i despise microsoft and still find it silly that the os requires 4 gigs of ram and a minimum cpu of 2ghz...just stupid (after all - in an ideal world, the os should simply play the role of host to your apps). but this is how apps are going these days - they are requiring more and more hardware resources to supply the same bit of performance. but lets be real - this is the nature of technology. i bet you'd have trouble running nero or firefox on windows 3.1. in my opinion, vista is ahead of it's time. i think it's been deployed as a bridge to 64 bit architecture. dual core cpu's are now the standard and only going higher. it requires at least 3 gigs of ram, but 4 is better. only about 3.3-3.5 of that is addressable on a 32 bit platform and hence, my 'bridge' conclusion. as 64 bit programming becomes more common, i think vista will be attributed as the os that made it happen.

for the record: i am not a microsoft fan-boy. i think they are a terrible company for many reasons. if i had my way, i'd be running linux on all of my machines...but talk about lack of support. i love linux but it's a windows world and i resist only as much as my sanity and job stability will allow.

so yeah...vista is big. too bloated? probably. more stable? yes, and increasingly so. would i install it on my hospitals network? hell no. not for at least another year or so...

Have you ever used Ubuntu?

[goliath]

Have you ever used Ubuntu?

yeah, but i can stand gnome or debian-like package managers. i used slackware for a while then switched to suse when novel started polishing it up. i prefer zen over deb-style packages...maybe i'm old fashioned, but i still compile most programs from source instead of packages.

[goliath]

something funny about vista - everyone is so 'ooohh, aaahhh' over the way it looks. linux has been using transparency, 3d desktop switching and all kinds of other eye candy for years. microsoft simply ported a slimmed-down version of what linux has been doing to windows...

if you wanna see real 'wow factor' as microsoft calls it, check out the beryl project. just google or do a youtube search for beryl....

[FitnessBrat]

pilates was the business - not what i was into. if i open a burger joint, it isn't necessarily true that i eat nothing but hamburgers. with regard to going broke, it's better to have it happen before 30 because it gives you plenty of time to recover. being broke and being poor are very different. broke implies a current lack of financial capital, being poor implies an unwillingness do shit about it. i am far from being poor and i've never been so.

about your outlook problem...send me $100 and i'll send you the answer.

Ahahaha

[Bouncer]

yeah, but i can stand gnome or debian-like package managers. i used slackware for a while then switched to suse when novel started polishing it up. i prefer zen over deb-style packages...maybe i'm old fashioned, but i still compile most programs from source instead of packages.

ya i agree. :wacko: lol

[NewbieChris]

yeah, but i can stand gnome or debian-like package managers. i used slackware for a while then switched to suse when novel started polishing it up. i prefer zen over deb-style packages...maybe i'm old fashioned, but i still compile most programs from source instead of packages.

I was looking for more of a blow-by-blow comparison to Linix/Windows. My friend raves about it. I think I understood like 2 things you said.

[goliath]

I was looking for more of a blow-by-blow comparison to Linix/Windows. My friend raves about it. I think I understood like 2 things you said.

here is a side-by-side comparison of vista and linux:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9325931427.html

the author is very biased toward linux though - imo. but it's a decent write-up...there is no doubt that linux is gaining strength, but i doubt it will ever be as widely accepted as windows. getting new software for linux doesn't entail a simple trip to your local electronics store. it usually involves a FREE download of a windows application clone. the way software is installed on each is very different. on the os-front, linux is the innovator. on an application front, windows hosts the role. i say host because that's what any os really is, a host to your apps. but because most people run windows, that's what software companies develop - windows software. so the linux community will write software with the same or similar functionality. anyhow - it would take days to discuss all the ins and outs of each, but the link and what i just wrote is it in a nutshell....