I just saw this video of a soldier picking up a dog and throwing it off a cliff

[mindstar]

Yeah I agree but when people see that video the first thing they say is what a embrassment and he should be put in jail and all that. They never say that guy must be having it rough over there and maybe he needs help or maybe he just missed the birth of a child and he is cracking up. You know what I am trying to say. And Im not just talking about the dog thing.

I think it's a great point that soldiers aren't properly supported from a mental health standpoint. That's no excuse though.

[Shibby]

Its hard to be all nice a sweet to a puppy then stick a knife in someones face. Its easier to stay in one mode but I dont expect anyone that hasnt been though it to understand...

It doesn't have to be one or the other. He could ignore the puppy no matter if it's dead or alive. To be that unstable an inhumane is a dangerous person. You can't trust what he will do next. The last thing any soldier needs over there is a loose cannon who's next stunt might just get them shot at or killed.

And yes it is an embarrassment. I'm sure you have heard some sort of phrase that refers to one person spoiling it for the rest. Not everyone gets exposed to all sides of America. I have known student athletes from other countries that seriously thought that most Americans acted like what was portrayed in some movie.

[FrankTheTank55]

Part of what defines a United States Marine is keeping your composure. Yes they have it tough and yes their life is on the line but no, they cannot go around acting like some group of African Rebels with machetes acting like fucking animals. You are a United States Marine, one of the most respected fighting forces on this earth, you are supposed to conduct yourself as such.

Yeah I agree but when people see that video the first thing they say is what a embrassment and he should be put in jail and all that. They never say that guy must be having it rough over there and maybe he needs help or maybe he just missed the birth of a child and he is cracking up. You know what I am trying to say. And Im not just talking about the dog thing.

[Bouncer]

So soldiers and Marines not only have to worry about dying, missing their family, not eating hot food, sleeping in the sand, watching their friends die. They have to make sure they are outstanding citizens?? Now, I agree that throwing a dog off a cliff is wrong! But walk a mile in their shoes before you start setting "standards" for them to life by. They are in a place were they are hated and not wanted and they are told that everyday by the people of that country. All that shit gets at you after awhile. And to top it all off you have to worry about offending the people back home sitting on their asses watching youtube?? Im not justifying what he did but people have to remember these guys are human and they see some pretty inhuman things. Its hard to be all nice a sweet to a puppy then stick a knife in someones face. Its easier to stay in one mode but I dont expect anyone that hasnt been though it to understand...

Yes they have it tough and yes their life is on the line but no, they cannot go around acting like some group of African Rebels with machetes acting like fucking animals. You are a United States Marine, one of the most respected fighting forces on this earth, you are supposed to conduct yourself as such.

and lets not forget, it is every Marines choice to be there. they were not forced to be a Marine. if you cant act like a respectable soldier then you shouldnt have joined the United States Marine Corps. Maybe thats acceptable in the Mexican Army or some other 3rd world country but not fucking here.

[mindstar]

So soldiers and Marines not only have to worry about dying, missing their family, not eating hot food, sleeping in the sand, watching their friends die. They have to make sure they are outstanding citizens??

Yes. That's the job. Maybe not outstanding citizens, but at least not criminals.


No doubt soldiers have a tough job, no argument there. Should their tough job excuse them from behaving like decent human beings? No. That's all I'm talking about, being a decent human being. If being a soldier robs one of all human decency, then maybe we need to have better psychological screening tests before we let people in. Maybe the military might like to go back to that best of the best thing.

[FrankTheTank55]

i don't and i'll tell you why.

The soldiers that are in Iraq are like the law and as such should be held to a higher standard than the average douche bag. Now I'm not saying that the donkey video wasn't upsetting, it totally was and those idiots should be punished. But a soldier should be better than the average person.

Certain professions are held to a higher standard than the rest of us (or should be) and it is worse when they break the rules, because they undermine the whole system along with whatever they did wrong.

So soldiers and Marines not only have to worry about dying, missing their family, not eating hot food, sleeping in the sand, watching their friends die. They have to make sure they are outstanding citizens?? Now, I agree that throwing a dog off a cliff is wrong! But walk a mile in their shoes before you start setting "standards" for them to life by. They are in a place were they are hated and not wanted and they are told that everyday by the people of that country. All that shit gets at you after awhile. And to top it all off you have to worry about offending the people back home sitting on their asses watching youtube?? Im not justifying what he did but people have to remember these guys are human and they see some pretty inhuman things. Its hard to be all nice a sweet to a puppy then stick a knife in someones face. Its easier to stay in one mode but I dont expect anyone that hasnt been though it to understand...

[redsquirrel]

i don't and i'll tell you why.

The soldiers that are in Iraq are like the law and as such should be held to a higher standard than the average douche bag. Now I'm not saying that the donkey video wasn't upsetting, it totally was and those idiots should be punished. But a soldier should be better than the average person.

Certain professions are held to a higher standard than the rest of us (or should be) and it is worse when they break the rules, because they undermine the whole system along with whatever they did wrong.

1. I don't think I even want to ask what this "donkey video" is all about, so I won't.

2. I agree 100% that people respresenting and defending our country should be examples of how to act. To think that we as Americans put all of our faith in these boys, and how some can embarass us to such extremes is appauling.

[mindstar]

yeah watch it and see if you feel the same feelings you feel from the other.

i don't and i'll tell you why.

The soldiers that are in Iraq are like the law and as such should be held to a higher standard than the average douche bag. Now I'm not saying that the donkey video wasn't upsetting, it totally was and those idiots should be punished. But a soldier should be better than the average person.

Certain professions are held to a higher standard than the rest of us (or should be) and it is worse when they break the rules, because they undermine the whole system along with whatever they did wrong.

[redsquirrel]

You know, I saw this thread the other day, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

We have become so desensitized as a society because of things like this. I didn't even run the video because it is just so disgusting. Who wants to see this??? How does seeing something like that add value to anyone's life? People publish videos like this for shock value, and nothing more. No one really evaluates how it can make someone feel.

Since the whole Michael Vick thing, I have gotten very involved w/ the ASPCA. Now, this is a free country, and you can post whatever you want. But, for many it is quite upsetting. As I said, I don't even want to watch the video because I will get too upset and pissed off.

[caged]

oh shit....lmfao!!!!!!!!

[Bouncer]

what the hell is going on in this thread. lol. i am lost.

[curtus e flush]

:dunno:yeah whats that about newbs

[NewbieChris]

Newbs? :confused:

I didn't have any smart remarks...:(

Comparing me to Rado :mad:

[FitnessBrat]

Ok Newbs...

Newbs? :confused:

[NewbieChris]

look chris, shut the fuck up. :D

:dunno: