Can somone explain to me how my presidential vote matters?

[parabody]

no its because he is best friends with a racist fucking preacher, i dont get how a preacher can be racist, im not real catholic or into the church but from what i understand we were all created equally drop the slavery shit we had nothing to do with it it was 140 years ago and its bullshit, if people would work hard for what they want instead of making excuses this world would be alot better, get rid of all the fucking drug dealers ruining kids futures by selling a 14 year old coke or dope

[NewbieChris]

no its because he is best friends with a racist fucking preacher, i dont get how a preacher can be racist, im not real catholic or into the church but from what i understand we were all created equally drop the slavery shit we had nothing to do with it it was 140 years ago and its bullshit, if people would work hard for what they want instead of making excuses this world would be alot better, get rid of all the fucking drug dealers ruining kids futures by selling a 14 year old coke or dope

From all the clips on the internet and media outlets I never once saw the Wright say anything about slavery. He said many controversial thing about the government and whites(implicitly). His anger may come from, at its roots, slavery. However, there are so many other factors. The United States hasn't progressed past our history of racial tensions. Its the fault of both sides. People like you who use the word racist at the drop of a hat. White people who feel that they are persecuted for being the only racist race. Obama made a great statement in Philadelphia after the Wright controversy first began. Unless we actually work these problem out nothing will change.

As for religion...it is what people make of it. Your argument about slavery is exactly the opposite argument you want it to make. Whites back in the day didn't consider the Africans people. Women were also not considered equally or did you forget you could sell your daughter.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

[NewbieChris]

I couldn't agree more. Now, we can all go back and forth about his values, but quite frankly- I don't give a shit. I don't even give a shit if he lied about it. That didn't have an impact on his ability to do a good job. Think back to the time when he was president- unemployment was at an all time low, the dollar was high, and we had NO national debt. The deficit Bush has gotten us in- it will take our grandchildren to pay back. What does that mean to us- higher taxes....and much of the deficit is for a war we can't win

Well, I don't know if I fully agree. I think his judgment should have been much better in handling the situation. He should never have lied, or mislead us. However, in politics you have to do that. Many economic issues were truly the free market. Unemployment was controlled by the market, not Clinton. The national debt you can thank Clinton and Bush I for. If first President Bush had not passed 'Pay-as-you-go' we never know what would have happened. However, the fact that Clinton followed it and did not ignore it is a good thing. He showed a lot of fiscal restraint as President. Clinton was just far more responsible person than our current president ever will or could be. Bush ruined every business he ever ran. Its amazing Texas is still in one piece.

[Bouncer]

no its because he is best friends with a racist fucking preacher

i have some friends that are some pretty bad people. dosent mean i share the same beliefs or would do the same things they would.

im not sticking up for obama or hilary just saying.

[Shibby]

i have some friends that are some pretty bad people. dosent mean i share the same beliefs or would do the same things they would.

im not sticking up for obama or hilary just saying.

I'm not trying to sound like I am attacking you, I am just curious. What makes them your friends then?

[NewbieChris]

To be honest Shibby your vote is only as important as you make it to yourself. Some people just vote a one sided ballot. That shows no intelligence, IMO. Just because we don't live in a pure democracy doesn't mean what you think isn't important. You just can't be apathetic because of the system. When you let the system get you down to the point where you aren't willing to do anything, that is when your vote doesn't matter.

[NewbieChris]

i have some friends that are some pretty bad people. dosent mean i share the same beliefs or would do the same things they would.

Im interested in what you mean by 'bad people'?

[Shibby]

To be honest Shibby your vote is only as important as you make it to yourself. Some people just vote a one sided ballot. That shows no intelligence, IMO. Just because we don't live in a pure democracy doesn't mean what you think isn't important. You just can't be apathetic because of the system. When you let the system get you down to the point where you aren't willing to do anything, that is when your vote doesn't matter.

Thanks for helping explain things from a different point of view. I think I am in the group of people that want something more than a moral ground to stand on. I am very impatient for change at this point, I want it all to matter now.

[NewbieChris]

I think I am in the group of people that want something more than a moral ground to stand on. I am very impatient for change at this point, I want it all to matter now.

Can you elaborate on this? You want what 'all' to matter now? Your opinion does matter now. Are you a democrat? Because today was a perfect time to voice your opinion and make it count. Thats not forgoing things like being involved in local politics. School boards, local building code associations, etc. You would be amazed at how much we can change locally if we want to.

Changing the federal government is going to be difficult. It will also take time, but I think the day will come when so many of us will be fed up with the size of the government that we will have the ability to shrink it. It could go the other way, but I pray it doesn't.

[Shibby]

Changing the federal government is going to be difficult. It will also take time, but I think the day will come when so many of us will be fed up with the size of the government that we will have the ability to shrink it. It could go the other way, but I pray it doesn't.

Basically you are saying what I am getting at. It's hard to explain in great detail since I don't understand a lot of it, I just don't like how it feels.

Unfortunately I missed out on voting. After moving I thought I had re-registered in my new city, but something got messed up. I was still registered in my previous city and couldn't make it out their.

[njjuicer]

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Bill Clinton was a much better president than a lot of past Presidents.[/QUOTE]

lol this coutnry is fucked

[Bouncer]

Im interested in what you mean by 'bad people'?

brake your knee cap or worse if you owe them money type people.

[coffee-guy]

This whole pretend democracy is why the younger generation is neglecting to vote. I voted last time simply because I thought I should but didn't really know what was going on. Maybe instead of just trying to rally the younger generation to vote, the campaign people should educate more on why and how your vote matters.

Higher education IS the driving factor in the political war - it's a proven fact that the more educated the citizen the more likely they are to vote - I forget the term/phrase that better explains this but I can assure you that the "campaign people" DO know these things - that's why our children's education system is so important to "them" - they know they can't come into our homes to preach their politics but since most people's political viewpoints are formed at an early age they know that they HAVE to use school as a breeding ground for socializing kids in this aspect....